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Posted on 10/25/18 at 3:44 pm to CarRamrod
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all of your assumptions.
Specifically, please.
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and 3 500 year storms have hit mexico in the past 10 years... doesnt mean that is the new norm. and im not saying the new hurricane protection system isnt effecting certain areas but not to the extend that it is gonna vanish one day from erosion.
Wut? It is already vanishing. but you knew this because you read it all. I'm saying that the levee isn't slowing down any erosion south of it. In fact, it will be expediting erosion because the tide can't flow as naturally as it did before.
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well this either because the community is blind or deaf or people arent taking self blame because there have been public meeting for these.
Maybe because we don't live there, we just were not aware. It is certainly plausible that a community where owners do not live permanently are not aware as they live elsewhere.
It's as if you're cool with some people being shite on to save others. I understand the "greater good" argument, but do you have no empathy for anyone affected by it. I suspect even if we were present for the public meeting, it would have still turned out this way.
Posted on 10/25/18 at 3:50 pm to Motorboat
quote:man is causing the erosion.
all of your assumptions.
Specifically, please.
well you can say that man did help it, but that was in the 30s-40s-50s when land owners sold the rights to drill all through the marsh and the oil companies left the canals. I cant hate on that as my Grand father was the chief engineer for all of south Louisiana for a certain company.
quote:the levee isnt there to prevent erosion. It is to protect against storm surge.
I'm saying that the levee isn't slowing down any erosion south of it.
quote:it really isnt. but subsidence is happening and there still isnt any major sediment deposition. Thats what needs to happen. The Diversion projects are a start.. but they are the answer.
In fact, it will be expediting erosion because the tide can't flow as naturally as it did before.
Id love to talk to you about this. lets go fishing.
Posted on 10/25/18 at 7:03 pm to Motorboat
Despite all the flack you are getting I can 2nd everything you have said.
Posted on 10/25/18 at 7:07 pm to Motorboat
I didn’t read the whole thread but what would you have recommended instead?
Posted on 10/25/18 at 7:30 pm to Motorboat
I am camp owner south of the levee in cocodrie, And have been a camp owner for 20 years and fishing down there for 40 . Construction of this levee and its impacts was not communicated to the people south of the levee. Property values are near zero because no one wants to buy anything below the levee anymore.
this levee has changed the marsh south of it ten fold in a matter of a couple years.
I very much see a respect both sides of the argument.
I personally think they need to spend more money on barrier island restoration.. slowing saltwater influx and letting the natural north to south flow of fresh water help the eco system
this levee has changed the marsh south of it ten fold in a matter of a couple years.
I very much see a respect both sides of the argument.
I personally think they need to spend more money on barrier island restoration.. slowing saltwater influx and letting the natural north to south flow of fresh water help the eco system
Posted on 10/25/18 at 7:36 pm to finfeathersport
quote:this is where the vast majority coastal funding went during the 2000s. With regard to restoration anyway.
more money on barrier island restoration
If you’re interested in the read, plans are being developed to increase the flow in Bayou Lafourche. Should help barataria/east Terrebonne.
Posted on 10/25/18 at 7:42 pm to jimbeam
I dont know but it will cause there to be nothing but open water all the way to the levees a lot faster. The amount of land lost since they were put in has been severe.
Posted on 10/25/18 at 8:13 pm to jimbeam
I honestly don’t know. I’d love to be able to get rid of levees all together and let nature take its course. This includes river levees. I know that’s not a viable option as we are too deep in. I’m afraid all of this will be for naught and that we are only expediting the inevitable in an attempt to prolong the inevitable.
Posted on 10/25/18 at 8:41 pm to good_2_geaux
This will be another boondoggle and environmental disaster like all the other corp projects...
Posted on 10/25/18 at 11:06 pm to Motorboat
You may want to read up on the flood of 1927 before you do away with the levees. Sadly once we locked in the course of the Mississippi River then South Louisiana was done for. Nothing is there to impede the rising water when the south winds blow. The land is also still settling so you can tack on a few inches or so. Enjoy the marsh while you can because I fear that it will be all open water up to the levees in 50 years or so.
Posted on 10/26/18 at 5:09 am to Motorboat
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Explain. These levees have changed the water levels in the marsh significantly. I'm all for protecting the people in Houma but what about the ecosystem? Also, please explain why there was ever any need to even consider closing the bubba dove yesterday. I'm not trying to get in a pissing match. Just reporting what I see on the ground (water)
Bubba Dove is on a Federal Waterway, the HNC.
A lot more steps are needed to close the Bubba Dove.
Other flood gates are local control structures and controlled by the Parish and Levee District.
Posted on 10/26/18 at 8:16 am to sawtooth
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You may want to read up on the flood of 1927 before you do away with the levees. Sadly once we locked in the course of the Mississippi River then South Louisiana was done for.
I've read Rising Tide at least 3 times. My argument is that the levees have caused the problems we are having, but we are too far in to go back now.
Posted on 10/26/18 at 8:44 am to jimbeam
quote:and increased flow from the atchafalaya via Bayou boeuf. which would bring a lot more freshwater to houma and down
f you’re interested in the read, plans are being developed to increase the flow in Bayou Lafourche.
Posted on 10/26/18 at 9:07 am to jimbeam
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If you’re interested in the read, plans are being developed to increase the flow in Bayou Lafourche
Where can I read about this? I have been hearing this for over a decade. I live on the bayou.
They now have locks in Lockport, Larose and 2 in Golden Meadow. I am not sure how much more they can flow when they close the locks all the damn time. The bayou didn't drop at all last week with the front that we had.
Posted on 10/26/18 at 9:33 am to CootKilla
Posted on 10/26/18 at 10:02 am to CootKilla
quote:i am not 100% familiar with Lafourche system but i do not see any lock in lockport and the gate in larose has its leafs removed. The lock at the end of the Hurricane protection system has been staying close more recently to hold back more freshwater for the betterment of the bayou.
They now have locks in Lockport, Larose and 2 in Golden Meadow. I am not sure how much more they can flow when they close the locks all the damn time. The bayou didn't drop at all last week with the front that we had.
This post was edited on 10/26/18 at 10:03 am
Posted on 10/26/18 at 3:44 pm to CarRamrod
The lock is right before the curve on highway 1 in Lockport. Been there about 2 years. Stole the gate from the old intracoastal and brought it there.
Posted on 10/26/18 at 3:49 pm to jimbeam
According to that, phase to was finished in 2016. This all started before 2006. Still got nothing.
Posted on 10/31/18 at 11:44 am to CootKilla
Uh Oh. A STRONG SE wind guys look out!
The Humble Canal Floodgate and Bayou Terrebonne Sector gate are currently being monitored for closure. Humble canal will likely be closed around 3pm today and Bayou Terrebonne Sector gate will be closed as necessary this evening due to strong SE winds associated with frontal passage. Both gates will reopen on Thursday after passage of front.
The Humble Canal Floodgate and Bayou Terrebonne Sector gate are currently being monitored for closure. Humble canal will likely be closed around 3pm today and Bayou Terrebonne Sector gate will be closed as necessary this evening due to strong SE winds associated with frontal passage. Both gates will reopen on Thursday after passage of front.
This post was edited on 10/31/18 at 11:44 am
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