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Posted on 10/11/21 at 4:09 pm to sonoma8
I think only 1 thing should be changed at a time. Most likely bump it down to 15 or 20 and revisit after seeing the effects.
Posted on 10/11/21 at 5:02 pm to BrotherEsau
quote:He's not deciding. it's simply not possible.
How and why do you get to decide how many fish I can or cannot eat?
Posted on 10/11/21 at 5:17 pm to sonoma8
I've been trout fishing for 3 decades in the vermillion bay and cocodrie areas. I fish probably 15 to 20 times a year from June till Nov. I took the survey and every bit of it is true. There is a decline. I personally like the 25 fish bag a person because personally we dont always limit out. However, I have seen most of my travels that trout in cocodrie have been more school sized(12 to 14s) trips and in years past the trout were always bigger at Vermillion Bay area. Not the case as much at Vermillion bay these days. In the last 3 yrs at vermillion Bay as well as cocodrie the fish are smaller. Years before the trout were much bigger and anyone that really know Verm bay area knows what I'm saying. But now there are many trips with throw backs, many many. Here is my suggestion and here me out, it's just a suggestion and I gave it to the survey.
If you wanna change it, if the science says it's okay, reduce the limit to 15 trout but make the size 16 inches like reds. I must be crazy right? Listen to my reasoning. 15 trout at 16 inches or bigger will be much more meat than 25 12/13s....any real trout fisherman knows this. So there isn't any drop off at all to the fisherman's harvest and the trout population can grow big. It may take a couple years for the population to grow but to me it's worth it. All of us are tired tbh of the smaller fish and love the bigger trout.
Just my 2 cents from a long time trout angler.
If you wanna change it, if the science says it's okay, reduce the limit to 15 trout but make the size 16 inches like reds. I must be crazy right? Listen to my reasoning. 15 trout at 16 inches or bigger will be much more meat than 25 12/13s....any real trout fisherman knows this. So there isn't any drop off at all to the fisherman's harvest and the trout population can grow big. It may take a couple years for the population to grow but to me it's worth it. All of us are tired tbh of the smaller fish and love the bigger trout.
Just my 2 cents from a long time trout angler.
Posted on 10/12/21 at 5:29 am to BrotherEsau
quote:Because we have a public resource that we own and manage together as citizens.
How and why do you get to decide how many fish I can or cannot eat?
Posted on 10/12/21 at 8:59 am to SeaPro
I have a camp in Cypremort Point on Vermillion Bay and I agree with everything you have said about the numbers, but the 16 in trout are becoming harder to come by these days. I like the idea of 14 inches because you 16 inch trout are just too few are far between to make a trip and bring back enough meat for our family.
Posted on 10/12/21 at 9:18 am to michaelchachere
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I like the idea of 14 inches
Texas far outpaces the scientific research done in Louisiana. Studies in Tx have shown that trout become much more fertile at 13-14 in. Possibly increasing the size by an inch or two and lowering the overall take by a moderate percentage will yield a better quality fishery.
AL, MS, and TX have all dedicated a lot of resources to scientific research of popular recreational and commercial fish species. Louisiana is a far distant 4th.
Go look at GCCRL, The Harte Institute, Dauphin Island Sea Lab, etc... Is there anything remotely like this in Louisiana??
This post was edited on 10/12/21 at 9:19 am
Posted on 10/12/21 at 3:38 pm to jimbeam
quote:
5 fish. 16” or larger.
Agreed
Posted on 10/12/21 at 3:57 pm to MrLSU
I think we would have kept one Saturday instead of 18 
Posted on 10/12/21 at 4:32 pm to AlxTgr
Other thing that hasn't been mentioned in here is the effect of salinity on size and distribution of trout. More freshwater from the river has a negative impact of size of fish available.
Posted on 10/12/21 at 9:05 pm to sonoma8
LDWF can frick off. They don’t want our opinion. They just want to stall further and do nothing.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 6:53 am to hall59tiger
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Why not just try it out for a couple years and see what happens?
How often do you see limits go back UP?
Posted on 10/13/21 at 8:00 am to DMAN1968
I would be happy with a 15 fish limit with only one over 20”. No size restrictions other than that one over. Would eliminate throwbacks and preserve the breeding stock.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 3:28 pm to bayoudude
I saw someone further up mentioned redfish. They are now a problem in the marsh. Almost any day I can put my boat in the water and be back at the launch with a limit of reds within an hour. Several times I decided to keep a couple and they were slap full of baby specks. Now I don’t know how much predation of this sort goes on but I would imagine it’s pretty common. Multiply that by millions of redfish and to think they eat nearly constantly means they are probably a significant predator. In addition to the specks I think the over abundance of redfish are also hurting the crab populations.
Hell before Paul prudhomme came along fricking reds were considered trash fish. They used to sell them for fertilizer and cat food. Then the blackened redfish craze hit and they nearly wiped them out. When the strict limits were placed on them and they stopped the purse seines and fill nets the numbers exploded. I don’t target them much but that to me is where the limit should be raised rather than lowered.
Hell before Paul prudhomme came along fricking reds were considered trash fish. They used to sell them for fertilizer and cat food. Then the blackened redfish craze hit and they nearly wiped them out. When the strict limits were placed on them and they stopped the purse seines and fill nets the numbers exploded. I don’t target them much but that to me is where the limit should be raised rather than lowered.
Posted on 10/14/21 at 5:38 am to sonoma8
I wonder what the mortality rate is on the undersize specks caught and thrown back. I went fishing yesterday and caught the shite out of undersize trout. They were hooked in the eye, through the skull, mouths shredded, etc. i would imagine a significant number wont make it. Cant compare redfish to trout. Reds have hard mouths. Mortality rate must be lower on the throwbacks.
That said, I would be for a much lower limit but of any size. Like bass.
That said, I would be for a much lower limit but of any size. Like bass.
Posted on 10/14/21 at 1:48 pm to LSU2001
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Multiply that by millions of redfish and to think they eat nearly constantly means they are probably a significant predator. In addition to the specks I think the over abundance of redfish are also hurting the crab populations.
yupppppp 100%
Posted on 10/14/21 at 3:44 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
He's not deciding. it's simply not possible.
You don't think my family of five plus my mom and dad can knock out 50 trout filets? unless they're all 15" plus, we get close, then eat the rest the next day for lunch.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 6:50 pm to sonoma8
quote:LINK
Today, the Louisiana Wildlife and Fisheries Commission voted to delay a decision on spotted seatrout management changes until October 2022. The current 12-inch minimum total length and 25 fish daily bag limit will remain in place (except in defined areas of Cameron and Calcasieu parishes where there is a 15 fish daily bag limit, with no more than two over 25").
Posted on 12/2/21 at 8:17 pm to BrotherEsau
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You don't think my family of five plus my mom and dad can knock out 50 trout filets? unless they're all 15" plus, we get close, then eat the rest the next day for lunch.
I wish there was a simple "Keep what you can eat fresh" honor code. Unfortunately there a big contingent of fisherman that really only want the likes on social media and probably waste a lot of fish with our current liberal limits.
Still meat to be had with a reduced limit if you want to throw together a large fish fry. Marsh bass, redfish, sheephead, white trout, etc.. are all abundant and fry up very well.
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