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re: I'm seeing that the Trout limits were passed today.(updated with link)
Posted on 10/6/22 at 2:41 pm to LEASTBAY
Posted on 10/6/22 at 2:41 pm to LEASTBAY
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I think 14" would be better than 13.5.
to those confused by this, the fishermen are going to be looking for 14" not 13.5"
they built in a 1.2" grace for fish shrinkage and mismeasures so while the law is written at 13.5" they arent looking to right tickets and they know most people will go with the 14" just to be safe
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Posted on 10/6/22 at 3:40 pm to keakar
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they know most people will go with the 14"
Maybe most people you and I associate with. Not sure I would say most though.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 3:42 pm to bigbuckdj
If you are worried about the survival of released fish I think the treble hook is the wrong choice. I find the small kahle hooks in size #8 are a good option on small to medium size trout. Almost always in the corner of the mouth.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 3:43 pm to LEASTBAY
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Maybe most people you and I associate with. Not sure I would say most though.
thats true
i mark 12 1/4" and 16 1/4" on my box and if its close enough to check twice it just goes back in the water
but if they go ahead with this stupidity then i am 100% done following their BS rules while they simultaneously allow pogie boats to kill millions of fish a week unrestricted unmonitored and unsupervised
This post was edited on 10/6/22 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 10/6/22 at 3:46 pm to skullraker
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Guy's I late to this party. Are we talking about Louisiana new speckled trout regs here?
yes, new speckled trout rules are about to be voted on for all areas of louisiana
This post was edited on 10/6/22 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 10/6/22 at 5:02 pm to LEASTBAY
Six per trip was the average in the 90s, so 3 per trip today?
Damn, I must be really good at fishing.
Damn, I must be really good at fishing.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 5:13 pm to dandyjohn
Notice of intent which rarely gets reversed.
15 fish at 13.5”. bullshite IMO, there’s no science to back this up
Curious to see what the mortality rate is gonna do with all these undersized fish that are about to be released everywhere
15 fish at 13.5”. bullshite IMO, there’s no science to back this up
Curious to see what the mortality rate is gonna do with all these undersized fish that are about to be released everywhere
This post was edited on 10/6/22 at 5:23 pm
Posted on 10/6/22 at 5:22 pm to PapaPogey
How about new pogey boat regs, or a ban.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 5:32 pm to LEASTBAY
it’s all horse shite from a commission made up of democrats that are the commercial fishing industry’s bitch
Posted on 10/6/22 at 5:39 pm to Hobie101
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11.5 inch trout will turn into catching unlimited 13 inch trout.
The 13 will start going in my ice chest instead.
Or I'll start targeting white trout
Posted on 10/6/22 at 6:00 pm to bigbuckdj
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I don’t really understand the size limit at all. Wouldn’t it be better to take an 11” trout out of the population vs a 14”? Idk about y’all but I don’t feel great about the survivability of a 10” trout when I rip a treble hook off its face.
Yes, yes it is better to take a 10" or 11" fish than a 14" fish. 10" trout are great (based on similar species that are legal to take at 10") and make the perfect filets for frying. Usually our throwbacks end up in the mouths of a dolphin. 14" fish are predominately female, an increase in the size will cause more females to be harvested. Some parts of the year the size limit won't make a difference, some parts of the year you will catch all 11-13" fish... its gunna suck.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 6:01 pm to speckledawg
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It's more about if and how much they've spawned at that age, rather than survivability of a released fish.
WHO gives a frick if it spawned or not? That is a dumb metric to go by. I'd rather take more males than females from the population, and raising the limit to 13.5 we will be taking a large amount of females with very few males.
Posted on 10/6/22 at 7:01 pm to keakar
quote:You can't be a real person.
to those confused by this, the fishermen are going to be looking for 14" not 13.5"
they built in a 1.2" grace for fish shrinkage and mismeasures so while the law is written at 13.5" they arent looking to right tickets and they know most people will go with the 14" just to be safe
Posted on 10/6/22 at 7:13 pm to PapaPogey
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Curious to see what the mortality rate is gonna do with all these undersized fish that are about to be released everywhere
Mortality rate on released trout is less than 10%. If you didn’t gill hook the thing it’s surviving. That’s what the science says
Posted on 10/6/22 at 7:19 pm to hall59tiger
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Mortality rate on released trout is less than 10%. If you didn’t gill hook the thing it’s surviving. That’s what the science says
this ^^^^^
if its not gut hooked on live bait then it survives, its when they swallow the hook that they die
if you are using market bait or live bait and its hooked deep, then leave the hook in them and just cut off the line, dont try to get your hook back
and if you are using treble hooks, then stop now, and learn to fish with regular hooks. treble hooks on baits will kill the fish you need to release
This post was edited on 10/6/22 at 7:21 pm
Posted on 10/6/22 at 7:22 pm to AlxTgr
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What evidence do you have to suggest their science is wrong?
What evidence does the ldwf have? My anecdotal evidence is just as good as the research those goobers do.
The last “study” they referenced those yahoos were seining or trying to collect trout in damn near fresh water. So no, I couldn’t give two shits what those types of “studies” yield.
This post was edited on 10/6/22 at 7:49 pm
Posted on 10/6/22 at 7:54 pm to hall59tiger
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Mortality rate on released trout is less than 10%. If you didn’t gill hook the thing it’s surviving. That’s what the science says
This is just a flat out lie.
The INITIAL survival rate is 82.5%. That is an immediate release into the water WITHOUT predation. It gets worse when you include long term survival, drops off another 20-25% but nobody knows for sure. They don't even have research on fish predated on during recovery.
But none of that matters, what matters is when you catch a 13.5" fish or bigger it is more likely going to be a female than a male.
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Why don’t we have a larger minimum size, such as 14 inches? Speckled trout have sex-specific growth and survival rates. Males grow slower and don’t grow as large as females. In Louisiana, males do not reach a size of 14 inches until their third or fourth years. Since few specks live beyond age 5, and more than 70% of the total speckled trout population is age 3 or younger, very few males grow to larger sizes. This would result in a loss of recreational opportunity to harvest the males and could possibly cause a shift of harvest pressure to females.
Seagrant Louisiana/LSU
Posted on 10/6/22 at 8:02 pm to hall59tiger
10%… there is no way.
Ask flipper what his catch limit is!
Ask flipper what his catch limit is!
Posted on 10/6/22 at 8:08 pm to armsdealer
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hall59tiger - Mortality rate on released trout is less than 10%. If you didn’t gill hook the thing it’s surviving. That’s what the science says
armsdealer - This is just a flat out lie.
he said mortality rate not survival rate
he said 90% survival and you are saying 82.5% survival, so he said more fish survive then you are saying survive
reading isnt hard if you arent already assuming what someone is saying rather then read what they really say
This post was edited on 10/6/22 at 8:10 pm
Posted on 10/6/22 at 8:17 pm to armsdealer
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This is just a flat out lie
Forgive me, it was less than 11%.
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Using a variety of angling techniques, we captured 448 spotted seatrout ranging from 250 to 760 mm total length (TL) and assessed mortality in replicate field enclosures. The overall short-term mortality for all treatments was relatively low (11%); the majority of fish survived. The exception was angler skill level. Angling by novices produced a significantly higher mortality rate than angling by skilled anglers; however, mortality averaged only 18% even for inexperienced anglers. To evaluate long-term mortality, we monitored 27 spotted seatrout held in a laboratory facility for 30 d; the fish showed no signs of long-term mortality. We observed 11% mortality during the first 48 h and no mortality during the subsequent 28 d
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Catch-and-Release Mortality of Spotted Seatrout in Texas GREGORY W. STUNZ* AND DAVID A. MCKEE Department of Life Sciences, Texas A&M University–Corpus Christi, 6300 Ocean Drive, Corpus Christi, Texas 78412, USA
Congrats on being wrong in many ways
This post was edited on 10/6/22 at 8:36 pm
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