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re: I need a rifle to shoot deer at 350 yards
Posted on 5/19/20 at 7:01 am to WPsportsman
Posted on 5/19/20 at 7:01 am to WPsportsman
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with a 4x16 50 meopta meostar
4x16 is a tiny scope... 4-16x50
Ran the numbers in Strelock for a 130gr Federal Sierra Gameking BTSP. Sight in 2.3" high at 100 yards. Should keep you in the kill zone just out past 300. I forgot to put the mils on the chart in case you have a mil-dot reticle but you are at 1/2 mil at 350. So past 300 just put your target between the crosshairs and the first mil dot and you are golden.
Obviously this is a good place to start but you have o shoot at those ranges to verify. Nothing beats DOPE.
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Posted on 5/19/20 at 7:22 am to WPsportsman
Drop to 130g make it a good bullet and you will be fine. Practice
Posted on 5/19/20 at 8:37 am to civiltiger07
The cal you have is def capable of bringing down a deer at 350 yards. The Meopta MeoStar scope you have must be the Z-Plex II? No BDC hash marks to use for drops. You can zero at 200 yards which would put you 18 inches low at 350 yards or dial in approximately 20 clicks to be dead on at 350 yards. If you don't get closer, like so many others have said, practice is your friend and a good expansive bullet is always your friend. If your MeoStar scope is a mildot or McWHORTER-HV reticle you can use Strelok Pro to dial in the drop off your reticle. You can always order a ballistic turret for that optic as well which would make life so much easier for you.
This post was edited on 5/19/20 at 8:39 am
Posted on 5/19/20 at 8:41 am to WPsportsman
No offense, but based on that statement it would be completely irresponsible for you to shoot at anything that far.
Resposible long rang shooting takes a lot of knowledge, refined equipment, and practice.
Could you get lucky, shoot, and actually recover a deer at 300 or 350? Sure, but more than likely you will wound many in the process. Most of which you will not even know you hit.
My advice would be to find a mentor and learn from him. When you can consistently shoot a 6" group at 300yds then it would be ethical to shoot a deer or elk that far.
A 270 win is powerful enough to shoot deer at 350yds given the right load. Up-gunning is almost never a good option when trying to gain range, accuracy, or to "drop em in their tracks", probably the most ignorant statement in hunting.
Resposible long rang shooting takes a lot of knowledge, refined equipment, and practice.
Could you get lucky, shoot, and actually recover a deer at 300 or 350? Sure, but more than likely you will wound many in the process. Most of which you will not even know you hit.
My advice would be to find a mentor and learn from him. When you can consistently shoot a 6" group at 300yds then it would be ethical to shoot a deer or elk that far.
A 270 win is powerful enough to shoot deer at 350yds given the right load. Up-gunning is almost never a good option when trying to gain range, accuracy, or to "drop em in their tracks", probably the most ignorant statement in hunting.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 8:47 am to mrcoon
Yeah man, spend your money on some 130 grains and a tracking dog.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 9:01 am to White Bear
i use my single shot 45-70 and aim 3.50' over its back at 300+ yards.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 9:03 am to WPsportsman
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I currently have been shooting a 270
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I need a rifle to shoot deer at 350 yards
Look, I'll always support someone wanting a new rifle, but the one you have been shooting is more than capable. I have mine sighted in at 200 using 130 gr Federal premium with sierra boattails and it can handle 300-350 just fine
This post was edited on 5/19/20 at 9:06 am
Posted on 5/19/20 at 9:07 am to LoneStarTiger
Atlatl
Aim 30-40 feet over its back.
Aim 30-40 feet over its back.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 10:08 am to WPsportsman
Site rifle in for a 300 yard zero. Take a target to the treeline. Get a rock solid rest and shoot a five shot group, resting between shots. Report back to us with the group size.
If the current ammo you’re using won’t group 1.5” at 100 yards, switch ammo. Set up a great rest with sandbags in the barn.
If the current ammo you’re using won’t group 1.5” at 100 yards, switch ammo. Set up a great rest with sandbags in the barn.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 10:09 am to WPsportsman
Just listen to the guys saying to sight in high at 100 yards and your 270 will do the job. Don't let the 2.5 or 3.5 inches high at 100 get in your head. At 100 yards it is very easy to see what that looks like on a deer. I've made many neck shots and even head shots on deer at 100 yards sighted that way. You put the horizontal reticle at the lower jaw line and the top of their head comes off. Easy peasey. If you sight in 3 inches high at 100 and hold dead on the bull at 100, the shot placement will look weird at first through a spotting scope. Walk out and pick up your target and you will see it ain't nothin on paper.
But at 300 yards, it's not always easy to judge a holdover or high hold shot. A lot of people will shoot over a deer attempting to hold over or hold high. You want your long range shot to be a center mass shot. Much simpler sight picture. If you pull it a little you will still hit the vitals. The 270 is a great whitetail caliber. Maybe the best ever. I do prefer the ballistics on the 130 gr vs the 150 gr. And the 130 packs plenty of punch. Practice what these guys are recommending and you will see they are right.
But at 300 yards, it's not always easy to judge a holdover or high hold shot. A lot of people will shoot over a deer attempting to hold over or hold high. You want your long range shot to be a center mass shot. Much simpler sight picture. If you pull it a little you will still hit the vitals. The 270 is a great whitetail caliber. Maybe the best ever. I do prefer the ballistics on the 130 gr vs the 150 gr. And the 130 packs plenty of punch. Practice what these guys are recommending and you will see they are right.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 10:43 am to Tigerhead
Its the Indian, not the arrow. Quite a bit of solid advice here.
Your gun is plenty capable. Can you do your part?
Your gun is plenty capable. Can you do your part?
Posted on 5/19/20 at 10:52 am to WPsportsman
Pretty much any modern caliber. Even wt crap glass. U pick. If just deer id go wt a 6.5 to 7mm group. That 260 to 280 family. In other words ur current setup is fine. Sight it in for the range u will be shooting. Also federal blue box soft points roll em.
This post was edited on 5/19/20 at 10:55 am
Posted on 5/19/20 at 11:29 am to WPsportsman
I’ve killed Audad out to 470 yards with a 7mm-08 in Texas. I wouldn’t have shot a deer at that range, but those goats are fair play. Killed 2 with three shots. I missed on the first shot.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 11:51 am to WPsportsman
You can do this and it really won't be hard. In fact, if you like to shoot, it should be fun.
Gun: Your 270 is very capable of killing a deer at 350 yards. If this is an excuse to get a new gun, then that's a different story.
Scope: A nice variable scope (3-9X or higher) w/ a ballistic reticle. Tape a drawing of the reticle and ranges on the top of your scope so you can know which reticle to use and where to hold.
Ammo: Quality 130 gr load. Nosler Accubond would be my first choice, but Barnes TTSX should be good too.
The software route would be fun if you like crunching numbers, but don't let it slow you down taking your shot. You're prob not gonna shoot at 350 yards unless it's a really nice buck. Such a deer won't give you much time. Mark the ranges from your barn to the tree line from 150-350 yards in 50 yard increments. Know the settings for your ballistic reticle. When the deer steps out you'll know which reticle to use and where to hold on the deer.
The single most important thing: PRACTICE! Make a shooting range at your barn. You can sight the gun in at 100 yards, but you still need to shoot at further distances to know where your gun hits. Sometimes a gun hits differently than the software says it should. If you're not willing to practice and learn how to shoot at game long distance, I'd prefer you not take the shot.
Gun: Your 270 is very capable of killing a deer at 350 yards. If this is an excuse to get a new gun, then that's a different story.
Scope: A nice variable scope (3-9X or higher) w/ a ballistic reticle. Tape a drawing of the reticle and ranges on the top of your scope so you can know which reticle to use and where to hold.
Ammo: Quality 130 gr load. Nosler Accubond would be my first choice, but Barnes TTSX should be good too.
The software route would be fun if you like crunching numbers, but don't let it slow you down taking your shot. You're prob not gonna shoot at 350 yards unless it's a really nice buck. Such a deer won't give you much time. Mark the ranges from your barn to the tree line from 150-350 yards in 50 yard increments. Know the settings for your ballistic reticle. When the deer steps out you'll know which reticle to use and where to hold on the deer.
The single most important thing: PRACTICE! Make a shooting range at your barn. You can sight the gun in at 100 yards, but you still need to shoot at further distances to know where your gun hits. Sometimes a gun hits differently than the software says it should. If you're not willing to practice and learn how to shoot at game long distance, I'd prefer you not take the shot.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 12:30 pm to WPsportsman
In all honesty you should find a way to where you are closer. No offense, but not many people can accurately shoot a consistent group at 200 yds much less 350. You will miss and wound alot of animals which is reckless. If you are shooting a 270, then learn to shoot that caliber accurately at long ranges before going to another caliber. It's not the arrow, its the indian.
This post was edited on 5/19/20 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 5/19/20 at 4:01 pm to WPsportsman
I’m surprised nobody has mentioned this yet... Leupold CDS (custom dial system) is what I recommend. You get 1 free dial when you buy the scope, every one after that is $80. Send Leupold the bullet info, muzzle velocity, altitude and temp and they will send you a dial. Just zero at your zero distance then turn it to the number of yards you want to shoot and boom, dead on. I got in a club last year that was mostly pipeline hunting so I bought a 28 nosler and put a 3-15x56 Leupold vx-5hd with the cds and I practiced out to 400 yards and ended up killing a deer at 285.
The cds REALLY helps but it does not eliminate the need to practice.
The cds REALLY helps but it does not eliminate the need to practice.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 4:10 pm to A_bear
Get an adjustable turret scope and a sled to place your rifle on. With practice you can do it.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 4:34 pm to WPsportsman
you really need to go buy a new rifle in 6.5 Wby or 26 Nos, budget at least $3,000 for a semi-custom build. Budget another $2k for a scope that can even see that far. That's really the only way you can hunt deer past 200 yds.
or just do this:
or just do this:
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Your .270 with its current optic is fine for the job. Change your ammo to Federal blue box or better.
And practice, practice, practice at that distance
This post was edited on 5/19/20 at 6:25 pm
Posted on 5/19/20 at 4:52 pm to Duckhammer_77
quote:I was going to recommend a Ruger American for $249, but completely rebuild it so you have a decent rifle after rebuild.
you really need to go buy a new rifle in 6.5 Wby or 26 Nos, budget at least $3,000 for a semi-custom build. Budget another $2k for a scope that can even see that far. That's really the only way you can hunt deer past 200 yds.
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