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re: How bad are feral pigs in Louisiana?
Posted on 2/18/20 at 4:33 pm to September 1948
Posted on 2/18/20 at 4:33 pm to September 1948
We've taken around 600 off of 4k acres per year average for the last 5 years between shooting and trapping. Shooting them when deer hunting is basically pointless. I used to shoot every single one I saw but when they come out 25-30 at a time and you shoot one maybe two you are pissing in the wind. When you take out around 600 per year and the population holds firm and never decreases you are fighting a losing battle. There has to come a point to where some type of legal poison is put on the market to ever get it under control.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 4:47 pm to AP83
Holy Hell man 600 per year is freaking insane. We kill approx. 150 per year on 3,000 acres and you can definitely tell a difference. We don't see them on camera as much and don't see nearly the numbers we were seeing before we started killing approx. 150 a year. I hope to god ours don't get as bad as you guys have it.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 4:55 pm to September 1948
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Are these domestic pigs that got out and went feral or a completely different animal?
From my understanding, these are pigs that are descendants of pigs brought to the southeast by Spaniards a few hundred years ago. I'm sure plenty escaped and reproduced and became feral or "wild" hogs. Up until 20 years ago or so they were found mostly along rivers and marshy areas. For some reason their populations have really exploded and their range has greatly increased.
Something must've changed. They've been here for 400 years or more and only taken off like this in the last 20. It could have something to do with people feeding deer, I don't know. It seems to me that they took off like this once deer hunting methods changed.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 4:56 pm to Boat Motor Bandit
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Honestly that is not and never would be an area of the state id be looking toward too purchase land to make a camp. Large hog population YES. Very low deer herd numbers so much so the bag limit has been restricted in that area by the state. Not to mention the outlaw population in the area.
That's the thing. We are relocating to EBR so I want something in the vicinity. Also I'm a complete noob at this too. Not rushing into anything, just pondering and looking into it. I've just seen a lot of videos about feral hogs all over the South tearing shite up, ruining soil, etc.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 4:58 pm to Honest Tune
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You'll have to shoot some for sure.
Okay. And thanks to the others for recommending thermals. Looking forward to the possibility of having endless supply of hogs to plink (though sad these scum aren't going anywhere).
Posted on 2/18/20 at 4:59 pm to mdomingue
Still speculating and looking into it right now.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 5:15 pm to bayoudude
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Thermal is my next big investment as I have plenty pigs at my place in Pearl River County. Would be nice to be able to consistently put three to four a year in the freezer
I live in Nola and have a thermal/silencer if you want to try and go out one night... I’ll bring the beer too
Posted on 2/18/20 at 5:45 pm to Parmen
Call me crazy but if I was looking at small acreage in the south, I'd prefer hogs over deer. I've never had the issue and maybe I'd get tired of it, but small acreage the chance of a decent buck are pretty bad. No one cares about hog sizes, smaller the better often times. I'd rather shoot a bunch of hogs yearly on my back 50 then wait around and shoot a decent racked buck every 3-5 years personally.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 6:18 pm to REB BEER
Why haven't the game and fish people put bounties on them? That and good meat in the freezer should take out quite a few.
There used to be bounties up in MN for gophers a long time ago and that was the kid's spending money. May have been bounties on 'yotes there as well since there were hunters out with dogs and snowmobiles ( not at the same time).
I don't think people feed deer up here like they do down south. That may very well be a reason for more hogs.
There used to be bounties up in MN for gophers a long time ago and that was the kid's spending money. May have been bounties on 'yotes there as well since there were hunters out with dogs and snowmobiles ( not at the same time).
I don't think people feed deer up here like they do down south. That may very well be a reason for more hogs.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 6:25 pm to baldona
What area of Florida are you in?
Posted on 2/18/20 at 7:34 pm to September 1948
Back in the day, many people would buy hogs at the sale barn and release them on their or others land to have something to hunt after deer season closed. Much of the land then was free range timber but it all changed in the late 80’s and went to leased property. Katy bar the door after that occurred.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 7:43 pm to September 1948
Apparently this is a bounty on feral hogs, but there is just so damn many, like someone else said, they’re unstoppable.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 8:06 pm to Parmen
quote:They spread so quickly beacause folks that would rather shoot hogs than deer and have extra hunting time spread them or find value in hogs being on their land or lease. Fkn dumbasses can’t see the forest for the trees. Typical self serving dumbasses.
Apparently this is a bounty on feral hogs, but there is just so damn many, like someone else said, they’re unstoppable.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 8:10 pm to Parmen
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they’re unstoppable.
They could be stopped.
Govt land they could let people hunt out of normal seasons.
Private land...well its private...so if they want hogs they can have them.
This post was edited on 2/18/20 at 8:14 pm
Posted on 2/18/20 at 8:22 pm to September 1948
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Are these domestic pigs that got out and went feral or a completely different animal?
Both. Most places you’ll run across the Razorback type wild hogs. For years a local highway was the divider. To the south swamp area was all solid black razorbacks. To the north was multi colored domestic looking hogs. That’s due to the local prison farm having about 100 get loose 50 or so years ago during a storm.
As others have stated the population has exploded. I tend to think locally it has a lot to do with the decrease of pasture / crop land and increase in timber. About 20 years ago many of the large land owners quit planting, reduced cattle herds and planted pines. Where there was once 200 acres of open, non habitat, there is now dense cover. And I’m sure this didn’t just happen locally but all through the region.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 8:22 pm to Parmen
I had a LDWF enforcement agent tell me point blank: “if you see one, shoot it” !
Posted on 2/18/20 at 8:30 pm to Parmen
Google Texas and feral hogs.They are shooting them,trapping and shooting out of helicopters and they are losing the war.
The reason they are spreading all over is because ignorant people released them,thinking it would be cool to have hogs to hunt.The hog dog people released a lot of them,also.
They’re getting them up north.Somebody brought some to Alberta,Canada for a high fence hunting operation,of course some got out and now they are spreading over into Saskatchewan and into Montana.Some shot in Kansas had dNa from hogs in Texas.
They are the ultimate survival machine,they can live about anywhere and eat and thrive on almost anything.They multiply like crazy and have no natural enemies.
Some state have trapping programs and have outlawed hunting of them on public land.Trapping is much more effective and hunting of them keeps them scattered and harder to trap.
Besides all the problems they cause farmers and landowners,they carry lots of diseases and bacteria that harm native wildlife plus eat up foods for wildlife such as acorns.
I have 140 acres and they have ruined the enjoyment of my land for me.If I had known this was coming I never would have bought it.
I don’t see any solution,biologists say it’s necessary to kill 70% of the population every year just to keep the population from growing.Thats every year.
Texas has the most aggressive control programs and they aren’t coming close to 70%.
The reason they are spreading all over is because ignorant people released them,thinking it would be cool to have hogs to hunt.The hog dog people released a lot of them,also.
They’re getting them up north.Somebody brought some to Alberta,Canada for a high fence hunting operation,of course some got out and now they are spreading over into Saskatchewan and into Montana.Some shot in Kansas had dNa from hogs in Texas.
They are the ultimate survival machine,they can live about anywhere and eat and thrive on almost anything.They multiply like crazy and have no natural enemies.
Some state have trapping programs and have outlawed hunting of them on public land.Trapping is much more effective and hunting of them keeps them scattered and harder to trap.
Besides all the problems they cause farmers and landowners,they carry lots of diseases and bacteria that harm native wildlife plus eat up foods for wildlife such as acorns.
I have 140 acres and they have ruined the enjoyment of my land for me.If I had known this was coming I never would have bought it.
I don’t see any solution,biologists say it’s necessary to kill 70% of the population every year just to keep the population from growing.Thats every year.
Texas has the most aggressive control programs and they aren’t coming close to 70%.
This post was edited on 2/18/20 at 8:35 pm
Posted on 2/18/20 at 8:34 pm to LSUA 75
Listen to episode 115 on meateater. They have knocked them way down through trapping in Missouri.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 9:13 pm to LSUA 75
Sorry to hear that man. I saw a Youtube channel called Jager Hog or something. Just a dude setting up traps that sometimes catches 20-30 hogs a night. Then he goes in and dispatches them all with 22 long rifle.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 9:47 pm to Parmen
Hate to say it but they are a welcome opportunity on my land. The deer population isn’t exactly ideal here in southern MS. Can hunt all season and maybe see two or three deer but hogs at least give a decent chance of killing off the stand.
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