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TopWaterTiger
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Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
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re: Gulf flounder now becoming endangered....
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Ban oyster dredging statewide, watch all stocks increase. Make oysters a lease program just like other states

It's not just a coincidence that it worked wonders in calcasieu



The rest of the state is an oyster lease program. Calcasieu the only public farming oyster grounds in the state, which is part of why it went to shite. Nobody took ownership and cared enough to make sure it stayed viable. The other was the dredging that made it too easy.


KemoSabe65
Member since Mar 2018
2137 posts

re: Gulf flounder now becoming endangered....
Took wifey Saturday and killed 20, buddy moved to my spot and finished his 20, nuther buddy moved to same spot to finish 20, nuther had 40, nuther had 50. We were the only boats there that caught, all are guides ft/pt. Guessing there have been a couple thousand killed in this half mile area since January. That’s a lot of flounder guys but nothing compared to all of the shrimp trawls.


Boat Motor Bandit
Member since Jun 2016
1811 posts

re: Gulf flounder now becoming endangered....
Ron you are absolutely right!!!! It was about 11:30pm on a Thursday I was right off of Kelso Bayou in 2017 under some lights behind Browns grocery at the old Texaco dock. Catching Flounder, Specks and Reds. Almost had a limit of all and this van pulls up and backs up to a slip and sits there. About 20 minutes here comes a little shrimp boat full of zipper heads, it backs into slip and they unloaded boxes of flounder, specks and reds for a solid 45 minutes into that van. That mfer was loaded like a UPS cargo trailer from floor to roof and squatted on four flats as it drove off. By the time I rolled up and headed back home he was back empty sitting waiting on the next boat. You cant stop that?!?!?! The gooks aint gonna stop


Rust
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Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2019
31 posts

re: Gulf flounder now becoming endangered....
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Make oysters a lease program


So like..what we already have?
Care to elaborate?


KemoSabe65
Member since Mar 2018
2137 posts

re: Gulf flounder now becoming endangered....
Operation Game Thief Baw


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TopWaterTiger
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Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
7679 posts

re: Gulf flounder now becoming endangered....
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That’s a lot of flounder guys but nothing compared to all of the shrimp trawls.



And any wonder why there is why no minimum size set protecting the juvenile stock??? So the shrimpers don't have to cull anything.


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choupiquesushi
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yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
22600 posts

re: Gulf flounder now becoming endangered....
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I was talking to some trout fishing guides in Port Sulphur
grew up hitting flounder hard.. in bay jimmy and two spots in lake laurier and bay round..... sunken shell middens..... can barely find a flounder there now...and it ain't got nothing to do with freshwater... that entire marsh has been in rapid decline.


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saintsfan1977
West Monroe, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
4557 posts

re: Gulf flounder now becoming endangered....
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You cant stop that?!?!?! The gooks aint gonna stop


They would if the market would drop the price of flounder to nearly nothing or not accept flounder at all.


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choupiquesushi
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yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
22600 posts

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Ron you are absolutely right!!!! It was about 11:30pm on a Thursday I was right off of Kelso Bayou in 2017 under some lights behind Browns grocery at the old Texaco dock. Catching Flounder, Specks and Reds. Almost had a limit of all and this van pulls up and backs up to a slip and sits there. About 20 minutes here comes a little shrimp boat full of zipper heads, it backs into slip and they unloaded boxes of flounder, specks and reds for a solid 45 minutes into that van. That mfer was loaded like a UPS cargo trailer from floor to roof and squatted on four flats as it drove off. By the time I rolled up and headed back home he was back empty sitting waiting on the next boat. You cant stop that?!?!?! The gooks aint gonna stop
WLF has a tip ap you could have used...


mack the knife
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re: Gulf flounder now becoming endangered....
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WLF has a tip ap you could have used...


Operation Game Thief does work, i've seen it in action in golden meadow.


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ecb
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re: Gulf flounder now becoming endangered....
It is the shrimpers
This post was edited on 2/13 at 12:28 pm


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Boudinbaw
Member since Jan 2020
11 posts

re: Gulf flounder now becoming endangered....
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So like..what we already have?
Care to elaborate?

I misspoke

That would only apply to calcasieu


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tigerinthebueche
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Erwinville, LA.
Member since Oct 2010
23106 posts

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think the oil spill has something to do with it also. All the crap settles on the bottom where flounders live and it has to affect all sea life.




Found the shrimper


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maisweh
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Member since Jan 2014
3003 posts

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Skimmers is the reason. Prior to that technique they were everywhere.


Skimmers don't drag the bottom.


MrLSU
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New York/New Orleans/Melbourne/30A
Member since Jan 2004
14580 posts

re: Gulf flounder now becoming endangered....
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Not recreationally. The theme of this thread is that commercial fishing is probably putting a dent in the populations during peak time. Estuary changes have a large part to play in this as well with freshwater diversions/influx and man made barriers.


I was unaware until tonight that over 40% of Louisiana’s coastal brackish marsh has now been dammed/wiered/locked/levee’d/ or control structured up since the 1990s. The once brackish waterways are now fresh water estuaries. White Lake, Rockefeller, and other refuges which were saltwater estuaries until the 1990s for crabs, shrimp, menhaden, and other juvenile fish are gone.

No wonder the fishery has collapsed. The State needs to sue these refuges and force them to restore the natural water flow.


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AlxTgr
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Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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re: Gulf flounder now becoming endangered....
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Not recreationally
That's all I was saying. Look at what I responded to.


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Ol boy
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Member since Oct 2018
550 posts

re: Gulf flounder now becoming endangered....
WRONG
Skimmers do drag the bottoms at very fast rates, I have drug bottom trawls and skimmed and seen the amount of small founder caught and it’s a decent chunk of the by catch at certain times of the year.
But, shrimp tonnage caught in the gulf is at a all time low and now shrimpers are the reason!? I think there are others issues as some posters have pointed out not just commercial fishing.


SpeckledTiger
LSU Fan
Denham Springs
Member since Jul 2010
1279 posts

re: Gulf flounder now becoming endangered....
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Operation Game Thief does work, i've seen it in action in golden meadow.



Personally watched three guys get busted that we called in for keeping undersized reds from the pump station hole.


maisweh
LSU Fan
Member since Jan 2014
3003 posts

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very fast rates


3 mph isn't fast.

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shrimp tonnage caught in the gulf is at a all time low and now shrimpers are the reason!?


Correct. Diesel prices, ice, and the shed is giving a dollar a pound for shrimp, lots of people are giving it up. Theres more to it than just blaming shrimping


maisweh
LSU Fan
Member since Jan 2014
3003 posts

re: Gulf flounder now becoming endangered....
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Personally watched three guys get busted that we called in for keeping undersized reds from the pump station hole.

I've never seen any of the vietnamese get busted for filling up their buckets


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