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TJG210
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Gulf flounder now becoming endangered....
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During their Thursday, Feb. 6, meeting, members of the wildlife and fisheries commission heard some disheartening news regarding southern flounder stocks in Louisiana coastal waters.

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We have seen a dramatic drop in flounder stock biomass in recent years, and it has continued to decline,” said Jason Adriance, LDWF inland fisheries biologist manager.


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If not currently undergoing overfishing, what could this decrease in flounder populations be due to? “That we just can’t put our fingers on,” Adriance said. “And it’s happening gulf-wide.


Are these people so dense to not realize this is pretty much squarely on the trawlers? The amount of flounder killed by trawl boats is disgusting, and the biologists in this article just stick their head in the sand.

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bayoudude
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re: Gulf flounder now becoming endangered....
I wish they would ban inland shrimping. All those skiffs skimming every bay with 3’ or more water are killing tons of juvenile sportfish.


iron banks
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re: Gulf flounder now becoming endangered....
Skimmers is the reason. Prior to that technique they were everywhere.


Ron Cheramie
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re: Gulf flounder now becoming endangered....
The “shrimpers” know what they are doing. They go out in late fall in the ship channel at calcasieu with no intention of catching shrimp. They are purposely trying to catch the flounder run. Commercial flounder fishing is limited but bycatch from shrimp trawls isn’t. Catch as many as you want while “shrimping” and sell all you want.

How do you regulate that? Ban trawling at certain times? Certain areas off limits at certain times?
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mylsuhat
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re: Gulf flounder now becoming endangered....
Trout on the decline
Flounder on the decline
Coastal Marshes on the decline



Can't quite put my finger on the problem
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choupiquesushi
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re: Gulf flounder now becoming endangered....
Navy buddy that lives in Pcola and has for 15 years... has said every year he catches fewer and fewer there....


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NASA_ISS_Tiger
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re: Gulf flounder now becoming endangered....
I can certainly attest to some of this. Long ago in the 80s I was a deckhand on my uncle's Lafitte Skiff running butterflies and trawls in the salt ditch and around Black Lake off the Intercoastal. We caught a LOT of flounder as by-catch. Some we threw back, some we kept.

However his operation wasn't commercial. It was for all of the families for shrimp. I got paid in shrimp and several flounder. Point is...flounder ends up in the by-catch a lot...any shrimper telling you otherwise is probably lying.


Ron Cheramie
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re: Gulf flounder now becoming endangered....
In many cases flounder are the catch not the bycatch. Shrimp are the bycatch as they are targeting flounder


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Stexas
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re: Gulf flounder now becoming endangered....
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Coastal Marshes on the decline


Nailed it. The brackish estuary is vanishing. Either too high in salinity or too fresh, no in between.


tigerfoot
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re: Gulf flounder now becoming endangered....
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The “shrimpers” know what they are doing. They go out in late fall in the ship channel at calcasieu with no intention of catching shrimp. They are purposely trying to catch the flounder run. Commercial flounder fishing is limited but bycatch from shrimp trawls isn’t. Catch as many as you want while “shrimping” and sell all you want.

is this accurate?


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Boudinbaw
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re: Gulf flounder now becoming endangered....
Is this so hard to figure out?

Ban oyster dredging statewide, watch all stocks increase. Make oysters a lease program just like other states

It's not just a coincidence that it worked wonders in calcasieu


Riseupfromtherubble
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re: Gulf flounder now becoming endangered....
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“And it’s happening gulf-wide.



Gonna call bull shite here. Best recreational year for flounder in my area (PC, FL) in a decade


choupiquesushi
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yaton rouge
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re: Gulf flounder now becoming endangered....
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Coastal Marshes on the decline


Nailed it. The brackish estuary is vanishing. Either too high in salinity or too fresh, no in between.
siltation is also a huge factor


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Smell the crawfish
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re: Gulf flounder now becoming endangered....
I think the oil spill has something to do with it also. All the crap settles on the bottom where flounders live and it has to affect all sea life.


choupiquesushi
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re: Gulf flounder now becoming endangered....
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“And it’s happening gulf-wide.


Gonna call bull shite here. Best recreational year for flounder in my area (PC, FL) in a decade
isolated spikes...... yes... by and large the decline is very real


keakar
Member since Jan 2017
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re: Gulf flounder now becoming endangered....
gotta hurry up and use that fake data and voodoo science to end all forms of keeping fish to make it worth fishing for them

the spillway being open for almost a damn year ran off the flounder to get away from the polluted river water so lets hurry up and reduce limits for fake BS reasons before they return to normal

what they need to do, but they wont, is start hatchery breeding programs like other states do to help fish recover from "temporary" environmental changes

if anything needs to be done its eliminating the bycatch death rates for trawling, that where huge numbers of young hatchling fish are killed impacting the population numbers
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AlxTgr
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re: Gulf flounder now becoming endangered....
I don't think anyone believes it's over fishing.


choupiquesushi
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yaton rouge
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re: Gulf flounder now becoming endangered....
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end all forms of keeping fish to make it worth fishing for them
then they would be out of jobs


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MrLSU
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re: Gulf flounder now becoming endangered....
I was talking to some trout fishing guides in Port Sulphur who said they haven’t caught a flounder in five years I thought back to myself and I haven’t caught one in over five years either.


Saskwatch
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re: Gulf flounder now becoming endangered....
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I don't think anyone believes it's over fishing.


Not recreationally. The theme of this thread is that commercial fishing is probably putting a dent in the populations during peak time. Estuary changes have a large part to play in this as well with freshwater diversions/influx and man made barriers.


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