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re: GLOCK 19 Gen4 9x19 Pistol vs Beretta Px4 Storm 9mm Pistol
Posted on 3/24/14 at 1:24 am to Clames
Posted on 3/24/14 at 1:24 am to Clames
WELL, I am now looking into the glock 17 and it looks perfect for my hand, but how are the safety features, accuracy, and recoil. I know that it'll last a lifetime. I have shot the Px4 before and loved the recoil and how accurate it was along with its safety features. How would you guys rate accuracy, safety features, and recoil for the glock 17.
Posted on 3/24/14 at 3:47 am to GorillaPanic
Safety features on a glock? Don't touch the trigger if you don't want it going bang
Recoil will be the same in the 17 as any polymer full size 9mm
Accuracy and feel in your hand will make the difference in my opinion. It has a slightly steeper grip angle than is standard, and for me that put my front site high when I draw the weapon up. I always have to adjust for that.
Recoil will be the same in the 17 as any polymer full size 9mm
Accuracy and feel in your hand will make the difference in my opinion. It has a slightly steeper grip angle than is standard, and for me that put my front site high when I draw the weapon up. I always have to adjust for that.
Posted on 3/24/14 at 6:29 am to GorillaPanic
The accuracy of the gun will exceed your own skills ubless you get really really good.
With my 19 with a 17 round mag I can usually hit a water bottle at 25 yards with all 17...
It will cut cards at 10ft pretty consistently.
With my 19 with a 17 round mag I can usually hit a water bottle at 25 yards with all 17...
It will cut cards at 10ft pretty consistently.
Posted on 3/24/14 at 6:45 am to KBeezy
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Safety features on a glock? Don't touch the trigger if you don't want it going bang
This. Neither of my carry guns have a safety and it has never been bothersome. But if it something you have to have, the PX4 has a slide mounted safety/decocker as opposed to the G19 having nothing.
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Accuracy and feel in your hand will make the difference in my opinion.
The feel in your hand will lend to better accuracy.
Pistol accuracy is pretty consistent with any pistol at close ranges (within 25 yards). Even if a pistol can group at 1.5" at 25 yards, for all practical purposes, any pistol will shoot about the same. What makes the difference is how you manipulate the trigger when your sights are on target. That is where true accuracy comes from. So if the pistol feels better in your hand, your form will be better and accuracy should improve, at least in theory.
I would go and hold both of them to see which feels better.
And also, I never got an answer from you earlier. Do you plan on carrying this pistol? If you are, the G19 is better size and width wise than the PX4, although it can be done, just with less comfort. If you don't plan on carrying, either will do just fine.
Posted on 3/24/14 at 6:46 am to GorillaPanic
I own the PX 4 Storm. Too loud for my taste.
It looks great though.
Have a Baretta 92 and absolutely love it. Thinking of buying another one..
It looks great though.
Have a Baretta 92 and absolutely love it. Thinking of buying another one..
Posted on 3/24/14 at 6:56 am to Cadello
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Too loud for my taste.
Visually or physically?
Posted on 3/24/14 at 11:36 am to bapple
I plan on using it as a fun gun at the shooting range/ home defense Bapple. So im narrowing it down to the glocks 17, glock 34, and px4. Im gonna shoot all three at some point in the future.
Posted on 3/24/14 at 11:47 am to GorillaPanic
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So im narrowing it down to the glocks 17, glock 34, and px4.
For the range, I see the G34 being the most fun out of those from a practicality standpoint. Granted, I will probably never purchase a Glock, you get a 5" barrel and 17 round capacity in it. So it will be easier to shoot accurately and will hold the most ammo.
I would still go to a gun store and hold all of your choices. You will know when you hold the right one.
Posted on 3/24/14 at 1:04 pm to bapple
The 34 is toooooo big.
Ive got huge hands and the balance still feels off
Ive got huge hands and the balance still feels off
Posted on 3/24/14 at 1:09 pm to GorillaPanic
I can also add that the grips on the Gen 4 suck arse. I'm no pussy, but I had to take a break from shooting after 50rds because my hand was hurting
I'd file down the grips and put an extended mag release
I'd file down the grips and put an extended mag release
Posted on 3/24/14 at 1:14 pm to Hammertime
Setting the mag release for lefty and using the index finger on the right hand is the easiest fix. Though it takes a little adjustment.
Posted on 3/24/14 at 1:36 pm to SuzukiGoat
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The 34 is toooooo big.
I guess I may be a bit biased since I have an M&P CORE with a 5" barrel and love it. But I still think he'd get more use out of a G17 than a G19. But that's up to the buyer.
I still think it would benefit him the most to go and feel each one. It's amazing what holding one can do.
Posted on 3/24/14 at 1:40 pm to SuzukiGoat
The upgraded mag release on my HK is glorious.
Slide release is on both sides as well.
Slide release is on both sides as well.
Posted on 3/24/14 at 1:42 pm to bapple
I would say neither. Get a FNX/FNS, CZ75 P07, M&P (with apex), XD or SP2022 in Poly. I forgot to add the best striker fired out right now (IMO) The Walther PPQ
CZ75, Beretta 92/Taurus 92, or RIA 1911 in metal.
eta: Those were all under 600.
I got a CZ75 Omega for my first and I love it. If I were to have gotten a poly pistol it would have been a FNX or CZ75 P07 or Phantom SP01. I like hammer fired better.
CZ75, Beretta 92/Taurus 92, or RIA 1911 in metal.
eta: Those were all under 600.
I got a CZ75 Omega for my first and I love it. If I were to have gotten a poly pistol it would have been a FNX or CZ75 P07 or Phantom SP01. I like hammer fired better.
This post was edited on 3/24/14 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 3/24/14 at 1:45 pm to GaTiger78
quote:
You really won't learn much by asking people that
how so?
holding them in your hands is totally different than asking people who own, carry, and depend on them for their protection every day.
glock 19, OP
Posted on 3/24/14 at 2:15 pm to SuzukiGoat
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I do have a 9mm m&p with 51 rounds through it Im letting go for 450.
why you selling it?
Posted on 3/24/14 at 2:36 pm to mpar98
Wife bought it to spite me one day after I bought a gun at a show
She has shot it less times than me and Im tired of looking at it.
51 shots through it. 50 wwb and one powerball.
She has shot it less times than me and Im tired of looking at it.
51 shots through it. 50 wwb and one powerball.
Posted on 3/24/14 at 3:08 pm to bapple
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the PX4 has a slide mounted safety/decocker
On that Beretta PX4, see if you can flip the safety on and off 5 times without your thumb hurting. No idea why they come with sharp edges like that from the factory. Otherwise, it's a great pistol.
Both guns are light accurate and reliable.
One thing you might not have considered is the price of additional magazines.
You can find Glock magazines for @ $20.
Beretta magazines are closer to $40.
Posted on 3/24/14 at 3:13 pm to KBeezy
quote:That's incredibly naive.
Safety features on a glock? Don't touch the trigger if you don't want it going bang
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