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Posted on 3/24/14 at 3:22 pm to bapple
quote:That doesn't make the statement any less naive. This line will keep being said, and people will keep getting shot due to unanticipated misuse.
I think a carry gun with no external safety teaches you to respect the trigger more.
Posted on 3/24/14 at 3:22 pm to bapple
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Not really. I think a carry gun with no external safety teaches you to respect the trigger more.
anytime a gun is pointed at your jimmies, you should respect the trigger, external safety or not
Posted on 3/24/14 at 3:32 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
That doesn't make the statement any less naive.
Are you talking in terms of an active or passive safety? For example, the firing pin block in modern striker fired pistols are considered passive safeties because they do not call for the user to manually disable them before firing. They serve a very specific purpose.
But a thumb safety is a different story. It is considered an active safety because it requires the user an extra step before firing.
How exactly does telling someone to keep his/her finger off the trigger come off as naive? Not trying to be a dick at all, genuinely curious...
Posted on 3/24/14 at 3:34 pm to tiddlesmcdiddles
quote:
anytime a gun is pointed at your jimmies, you should respect the trigger, external safety or not
Agreed. I guess I'm referring more to new shooters who think a manual safety makes a gun "more" safe.This post was edited on 3/24/14 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 3/24/14 at 3:35 pm to AlxTgr
I do not know if there is data to prove it but I bet the majority of the accidental discharges that result in injury happen to folks who shouldn't have had the gun in the first place.
Posted on 3/24/14 at 3:39 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
That's incredibly naive
What in the heck are you talking about?
Naive how?
Posted on 3/24/14 at 3:40 pm to bapple
quote:That's pretty much a different topic. I'm talking about the statement and the mindset of those who repeat that foolishness.
Are you talking in terms of an active or passive safety? For example, the firing pin block in modern striker fired pistols are considered passive safeties because they do not call for the user to manually disable them before firing. They serve a very specific purpose.
quote:Because we all know the discharges(I'm not going to get into the idiocy of accidental vs. whatever here) happen. Just saying the booger picker bullshite is incredibly naive.
How exactly does telling someone to keep his/her finger off the trigger come off as naive? Not trying to be a dick at all, genuinely curious...
Posted on 3/24/14 at 3:46 pm to AlxTgr
It is naive to tell the guy that the only active safety feature on a glock is the trigger safety?
Posted on 3/24/14 at 3:49 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
Just saying the booger picker bullshite is incredibly naive.
It is one of the 4 firearm safety rules, FWIW.
Posted on 3/24/14 at 3:54 pm to KBeezy
quote:I would say no, but then again, I would never call that a safety.
It is naive to tell the guy that the only active safety feature on a glock is the trigger safety?
Posted on 3/24/14 at 3:55 pm to bapple
quote:No, that's not the same statement, and I agree with that rule.
It is one of the 4 firearm safety rules, FWIW.
Posted on 3/24/14 at 3:56 pm to AlxTgr
I'm just trying to wrap my head around what makes it a naive statement
Like I'm not even disagreeing with you, I just don't understand your statement at all
You might as well have said "that is incredibly purple"
I would have had the same reaction
Like I'm not even disagreeing with you, I just don't understand your statement at all
You might as well have said "that is incredibly purple"
I would have had the same reaction
Posted on 3/24/14 at 3:57 pm to bapple
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no external safety
A Glock DOES have an external safety. Glock even calls it a trigger safety.
quote:
The trigger safety is incorporated into the trigger in the form of a lever and when in the forward position, blocks the trigger from moving rearward. To fire the pistol, the trigger safety and the trigger itself, must be deliberately depressed at the same time. If the trigger safety is not depressed, the trigger will not move rearwards and allow the pistol to fire.
Posted on 3/24/14 at 4:01 pm to Shexter
quote:This always makes me laugh. On one hand, the flock says pull the trigger and it goes boom, then on the other, they claim a safety. that's no safety. That's a lawsuit prevention feature.
A Glock DOES have an external safety. Glock even calls it a trigger safety.
Posted on 3/24/14 at 4:01 pm to Shexter
quote:
A Glock DOES have an external safety. Glock even calls it a trigger safety.
We know
It was mentioned
ETA, it isn't much of one though.
This post was edited on 3/24/14 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 3/24/14 at 4:22 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
This always makes me laugh. On one hand, the flock says pull the trigger and it goes boom, then on the other, they claim a safety. that's no safety. That's a lawsuit prevention feature.
I happen to agree with Alx here. It's like calling a brake pedal a gas pedal.
I refer to those as "trigger tabs" since they simply prevent the trigger from pulling if dropped or if something gets slightly snagged in the guard.
I understand that Glock calls it a safety and since they were one of the first ones to do it, they decided to call it a safety. I don't necessarily agree with it though and consider it more of a passive safety since you don't have to think about it.
Posted on 3/24/14 at 4:24 pm to bapple
Posted on 3/24/14 at 4:47 pm to AlxTgr
I expect equal disdain for all DA revolvers.
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