re: Fill me in on the sport of hunting deer with dogs

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If you run dogs on deer you’re lower class.

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But hunting upland birds with dogs is the “gentlemanly” thing to do? Go kick brush piles all a day long to kill pheasants and quail

Or what about putting up high fences? Year long protein feeders? Riding around in the back of a truck?

To each his own

They used to do around here when I was younger. Never much on deer hunting so didn't really care how people hunted deer. Then the NFS outlawed dog hunting and people went ape shite. The problem lies in all the private land that is intermingled with the FS land. You have 20 acres in the middle of NF that you hunt and along comes some dogs running your deer away.

While I have never been on a true dog- deer hunt, I did hunt in south texas where the rancher had some blue lacy tracking dogs. We were bowhunting out of tripods and brush blinds. Inevitably someone would make a bad shot. We would turn the dogs loose, and it became a group of guys hunting a single deer. The dogs would raise hell and the chase was on, running from one sendero to the next, until they caught / cornered the wounded deer, then we had to bust thru brush to get to them and dispatch the deer. It was a lot of hootin and hollering, clowning the guy that made the bad shot, etc. We rarely lost a deer, but sometimes it became a hell of a chase. Those chases are some of the best memories between a group of guys that have hunted together for 25 years.

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Now I want to hear a description of middle class and upper class deer hunters.

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I am guessing those that wear Filson coat and Sitka underwear, shoot custom made rifles, with $5K scopes and shoot deer at protein feeders at 500 yards or in a fenced “ranch” and drink PVW after the “hunt” while the help cleans the deer and cooks supper???
Bet they are a hoot to hang out with

I would much rather be with the guys wearing wranglers and a 10 year old real tree shirt that might fit a little tighter than it once did, drinking miller lights at the skinning shed with a kick fire roaring then eat some fried backstrap and tell stories about the “round here buck”

Round Here buck song

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If you run dogs on deer you’re lower class.

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Tell us again how much of an alcoholic you are.

That was classy.

I know. Some are ok and a small
percentage give the bad rap. I was half kidding.

I hunted with dogs as a kid until about 20 then realized I prefer still hunting. Sometimes we would catch dogs for people and feed the dogs and when their owners got them theyd say we spoiled them. This was sw miss 1990’s so take it fwiw

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Why, do you feel it would be unsafe?

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Because I’ve heard buckshot go over my head through the leaves and I didn’t care for it much. Very different from the zip of a rifle round but still not fun.

If you’re not in their party they don’t know where you are or that you’re even in the area. And I’m not saying that all dog hunters are by definition unsafe, but if I hear dogs I don’t have time to interview them and see how they run their hunt. So I’m saying it’s by definition a potentially unsafe situation.

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Your 20 acres isn't holding deer.

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Agree, but if it’s his 20 acres nobody’s dogs should be on it.

For people who think dog hunting is a lazy man’s sport, you couldn’t be more wrong. Bush hogging and clearing lanes on 1000’s of acres is much harder than clearing 1 or 2 lanes to a feeder or pile of corn. We ride 4 wheelers and run around all day trying to get in front of dogs.

Sure there are bad seeds in all hunting including still hunting. But we do our best to run dogs the right way. Every drive is planned in advance where everyone will be and 1 guy walks them in to the woods zig-zagging and whooping until they jump a deer.

The notion that dogs are just thrown out and hunters just wait till they jump and haul arse all over the parish is just not true. At least not in my experience and I’ve been hunting in the same club for 30 years.

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...dogs will pass through it. As long as nobody is passing on his property or shooting on it its no problem.

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Somebody else's animals on a man's private property isn't a problem? I guess we were raised differently.