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re: Fill me in on the sport of hunting deer with dogs

Posted on 1/6/23 at 9:24 pm to
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 1/6/23 at 9:24 pm to
No. They either have it or they don't. Has nothing to do with being hungry, fat, loved, hated, etc. They either hunt or they don't.

There's a lot of stupid rednecks out there giving dog hunting a bad name. It pisses me off so much. Hunting with hounds is the most pure form of eastern deer hunting there is, regardless of what the corn sentries think.
Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
1752 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 9:26 pm to
SportING.

How sporty are your fishing tactics? Make your own lures, rods? Using an outboard? Using any electronics?

Obey the law, respect the resource, respect your neighbors and let folks enjoy the sport the way they want to enjoy it. It seems so easy but it’s so hard.
This post was edited on 1/6/23 at 9:30 pm
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35030 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 9:32 pm to
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respect your neighbors


Which is exactly what dog hunters DON’T do.

“Duh dawg ain’t read!”
Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
1752 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 9:49 pm to
See the last 4 words of my post.

Besides, we’re talking about how sporty it is.
This post was edited on 1/6/23 at 9:50 pm
Posted by Sucrose
Member since Aug 2021
22 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 9:50 pm to
For those that dog hunt for deer. Suppose you had 1 “very good” deer dog. How much ground could he cover to be hunted in one morning? I’m trying to understand how many dogs are necessary to be effective on a certain # of acres.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19454 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 10:11 pm to
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On the surface it doesn’t appear to require much in the way of skill or prep….


Kinda like pouring corn on the ground, climbing into a box stand and shooting a deer at 300 yards?
Posted by dat yat
Chef Pass
Member since Jun 2011
4309 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 10:14 pm to
I think it is great on national forest land or huge leases that can contain most races.

It is a pure form of true hunting. I don't have dogs of my own, but respect the sport itself. You have to know the land enough to predict where the race will go. You have to listen and react, or read the GPS and react. My land is partly surrounded by national forest lands where deer hounding is common. Plenty of races pass through my place, but it doesn't bother me; I just adjust my hunting to the situation. I've killed several deer from those dogs. If I can catch the dogs after a kill, I do that and bring them to the nearest road.

The main thing I don't like is when the hunters line the roads with guns ready, that does not feel safe when driving through. I have not had trouble with the dog hunters trespassing, and I don't mind the dogs. The hunting part is fun. Searching for the dogs afterwards looks like a bitch.
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
15785 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 10:16 pm to
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I did deer dog hunting for a few years.It was exciting at times but it got old looking for the dogs.Damned deer would run for miles sometimes. I had rabbit beagles quite a few years,was much more fun as far as I was concerned.



I’m going to be a dick and I don’t care.


If you run dogs on deer you’re lower class.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
38986 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 10:18 pm to
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sport of hunting deer with dogs


First you’re a dumb redneck, then you get drunk with friends and do dumb redneck things.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 10:22 pm to
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you run dogs on deer you’re lower class


Fuuuuckkkkkkkkkkk you

Bring me nilgai hunting

But frickkkkkkkkkkk you. The men I dog hunted with were anything but low class.
Posted by Shut Up Mulllet
Member since Apr 2021
781 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 10:37 pm to
Most fun I ever had deer hunting. Understand the hate, but don’t care.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19454 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 10:44 pm to
Three Buck Bayou Hunting Club was close to 20,000 acres in size. You could literally walk all day and not cross a road of any kind. The landscape was made up of large timber, thick palmetto flats, sloughs, brakes, natural lakes and the Tensas River.

These areas were often difficult to access due to high water and gumbo mud that in a day before ATV’s and UTV’s often times required horses to cover distances.

My Grandfather owned three horses and dogs, and he lived to turn his dogs out of the pen, mount his favorite horse and lead the pack of hounds out of camp yard and into the swamp.

Long before daylight members of the club would stop by his camp to find out where my Grandfather would “turn out” and where he felt the hunters would need to be. In those days very few men carried rifles afield. A 12 gauge loaded with buckshot, plug removed was the most lethal weapon for running deer in thick brush.

Does were off limits, even in “doe days”, and if the buck had a visible horn, he was fair game. No one hunted for bone, they hunted for food, camaraderie, fellowship and fun. The tactics weren’t as important as they are today. There was no division amongst hunters in regard to how someone chose to hunt.

In the mornings we ran dogs, in the afternoons we would climb atop homemade wooden ladder stands and watch thick ridges as deer returned to their home ranges.

As a child I lived to ride the horse with my Grandfather, the dogs striking out in front of us, eventually jumping deer. In the swamp the 100 year old hardwoods surrounded by water helped to create a symphony of barks, whines and snarls as the deer trotted along a few hundred yards in front of the dogs.

But it wasn’t the deer fleeing the pack we searched for, instead it was the quiet “slippers”, the deer smart enough to lay down, letting the pack pass them only to return in the direction they had originally come from. That’s where the riders would most often intercept them.

Want to talk about “sporty”? Imagine shooting a running deer with a shotgun off the back of a horse. I watched my Grandfather do it several times.

Dog hunting never was about the tactic or the camo or the brand of gun or what others thought. It was simply about using the most proficient means of killing deer.

Times have changed, properties are much smaller now and hunters have changed their tactics to take advantage of those smaller tracts of timber.
Posted by A_bear
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2013
1965 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 10:55 pm to
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If hunting is just sitting and waiting on deer, then you have missed it all


I haven’t missed anything. I put in countless hours a year scouting and hunting deer all over the state. Not sitting over food plots and corn piles. At the end of the day you’re still sitting there waiting on a deer to come by. I was never all in on dog hunting, I had some friends that would take me years ago and it was a good time because I was more likely to see deer with the dogs running than I was sitting in Sherburne over a rub I had found.
Idk if I would’ve let a mature 8 in Missouri walk, but I still haven’t missed the point of hunting lol
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
15785 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 11:01 pm to
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Fuuuuckkkkkkkkkkk you Bring me nilgai hunting But frickkkkkkkkkkk you. The men I dog hunted with were anything but low class.



I’m very lucky to have what I have.


Dog hunters are fricking trash.

I’d shoot the dog owner vs the dog.
This post was edited on 1/6/23 at 11:05 pm
Posted by SCwTiger
armpit of 'merica
Member since Aug 2014
5857 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 11:06 pm to
You baws don’t have a clue.
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
15785 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 11:10 pm to
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You baws don’t have a clue.



Don’t have a clue about what?


I’ve hunted Arizona, North and South Carolina, Louisiana, and Texas.
Posted by 9rocket
Member since Sep 2020
1209 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 11:21 pm to
Yeah, it’s a whole lot tougher to shoot a deer going as fast as he can, ducking and dodging through the brush and the briars than it is to hover over a pile of corn and wait for one to get hungry.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19454 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 11:28 pm to
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I’ve hunted Arizona, N and S Carolina, Louisiana and Texas


is this list meant to impress me?

God bless you, Junior.

Posted by SCwTiger
armpit of 'merica
Member since Aug 2014
5857 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 11:36 pm to
Good for you. I can tell by your posts you have the best of the best.
I was born into a family that hunted National forest fifty years ago. My dad bought some land in the middle of it and built a small camp where our family and friends would gather and deer hunt. Everyone hunted with dogs once the still season was over. Many deer were killed by still hunters in front of our dogs and everyone was happy.
We did it until the USFS outlawed it. Didn’t shoot down roads and didn’t shoot around houses. Look for our dogs into the night, and occasionally one would go several miles. People would call us and we’d go get them. Can’t ever remember anyone getting pissed about it-most were very cordial. It wasn’t until the cornpilers on leases started crying that dog hunters became “trashy”.
The best memories I have are from the deer camp and getting to kill my first buck in front of a pack of hounds. Sitting on your “stand” for half the day listening to the dogs run and hoping they’d come by you. . . Gather up at lunch and hear stories of everyone’s action.

If you’ve never done it don’t down it. Go watch your deer grow and wait for that trophy.
Downvote away boys. I’m just a cornpiler now just like y’all, but if I had some hounds I’d turn em loose just to hear em sing one more time.
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
15785 posts
Posted on 1/6/23 at 11:38 pm to
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