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Ever catch people you know on your land?
Posted on 11/17/18 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 11/17/18 at 1:08 pm
So last night I come out to check my cams, I pull up to the gate and hear loud rumbling. We’ve caught poachers before, so I holster my 9, chamber a round and get out to investigate.
About 6 atvs drive up and it’s a family of people we know well who live around here and are de facto caretakers of the land when no family member can make it out.
They are just joyriding, not tearing anything up. But it’s trhe middle of fricking deer season and I haven’t killed one yet so I’m growing increasingly pissed, but they always pull me out if I get stuck and I always go have a few beers with them at their camp when I’m in town.
Called my old man and told him what went down, and he didn’t seem too worried about it, but said they didn’t have explicit permission to be out there last night.
I hate being an a-hole to folks, but sometimes they put you in a situation where you have to.
I told my old man I’d do whatever he and my uncle wish, since they’re on the deed, and he told me to handle it however I see fit since I spend the most time hunting here.
I don’t wanna burn that bridge since our families have known each other for 50 years, but I can’t just let it go either.
About 6 atvs drive up and it’s a family of people we know well who live around here and are de facto caretakers of the land when no family member can make it out.
They are just joyriding, not tearing anything up. But it’s trhe middle of fricking deer season and I haven’t killed one yet so I’m growing increasingly pissed, but they always pull me out if I get stuck and I always go have a few beers with them at their camp when I’m in town.
Called my old man and told him what went down, and he didn’t seem too worried about it, but said they didn’t have explicit permission to be out there last night.
I hate being an a-hole to folks, but sometimes they put you in a situation where you have to.
I told my old man I’d do whatever he and my uncle wish, since they’re on the deed, and he told me to handle it however I see fit since I spend the most time hunting here.
I don’t wanna burn that bridge since our families have known each other for 50 years, but I can’t just let it go either.
This post was edited on 11/17/18 at 1:15 pm
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Posted on 11/17/18 at 1:10 pm to Masterag
I feel like you ended your story before the end?
How’d they get around your gate? If it was someone I knew I’d give them hell and be furious.
How’d they get around your gate? If it was someone I knew I’d give them hell and be furious.
Posted on 11/17/18 at 1:16 pm to baldona
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feel like you ended your story before the end?
Yeah, accidentally hit send before I finished.
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How’d they get around your gate? If it was someone I knew I’d give them hell and be furious
There’s a secret entrance that’s not gated for when we need hay cut and bush hogging done, and they’re usually the ones who do it.
Posted on 11/17/18 at 1:22 pm to Masterag
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need hay cut and bush hogging done, and they’re usually the ones who do it.
Uh...i wouldn't be toooo hard on them.
they sound like pretty good people TBH Maybe they don't understand that it's not etiquette to ride around during deer season.
This post was edited on 11/17/18 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 11/17/18 at 1:22 pm to Masterag
Do you pay them to take care of the land or they do it for free?
Either way, I’d make it clear you don’t want them riding ATV’s on your property without your permission ahead of time. And especially during deer season. The level of politeness depends on whether they’re paid or unpaid land caretakers
Either way, I’d make it clear you don’t want them riding ATV’s on your property without your permission ahead of time. And especially during deer season. The level of politeness depends on whether they’re paid or unpaid land caretakers
Posted on 11/17/18 at 1:27 pm to SportTiger1
They are good people. And they all hunt, too, so they should know the etiquette. They said they didn’t think I’d be hunting this weekend. But it’s not like they know my schedule, so I don’t know why that would be an assumption.
Posted on 11/17/18 at 1:27 pm to Masterag
They aren’t really disturbing anything. Those deer aren’t worried about someone riding around at night. They’ll still be there the next time you hunt.
If anything, ask them if they’d hold off on joyriding during the season. Especially since you haven’t popped one yet.
Maybe they’ll invite you over to their property to shoot one, seeing as how they’re all there not being disturbed at night.
If anything, ask them if they’d hold off on joyriding during the season. Especially since you haven’t popped one yet.
Maybe they’ll invite you over to their property to shoot one, seeing as how they’re all there not being disturbed at night.
Posted on 11/17/18 at 1:30 pm to Tiger Prawn
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Do you pay them to take care of the land or they do it for free?
They take a cut once the hay is sold, so essentially they are paid.
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Either way, I’d make it clear you don’t want them riding ATV’s on your property without your permission ahead of time. And especially during deer season
Yeah, I’m definitely going to do this. Trouble is taking the emotion out of it since I’m really pissed. But I don’t want to ruin a family friendship with them since they are dependable and decent folks.
Posted on 11/17/18 at 1:32 pm to BRgetthenet
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Maybe they’ll invite you over to their property to shoot one, seeing as how they’re all there not being disturbed at night.
They did last night, actually. I think they could tell it bothered me.
Posted on 11/17/18 at 1:34 pm to Masterag
Take a day to cool down and bring it up with them tomorrow with less emotion. If they’re decent reasonable people, they should easily understand where you’re coming from
Posted on 11/17/18 at 1:38 pm to Masterag
Cool your jets. Was what they did great, no but you don’t break up 50 years of good friendship over one misunderstanding. Accept their apology and remember what a bind you were in when they pulled you out.
Give yourself permission to cool off and ask them not to ride during hunting season. I bet they won’t be back anyway.
Give yourself permission to cool off and ask them not to ride during hunting season. I bet they won’t be back anyway.
Posted on 11/17/18 at 1:40 pm to Tiger Prawn
A lady who went to our church lived in an old rent house that bordered our property. Her daughters boyfriend thought that gave him permission to hunt. He put a stand up less than 50 yds from my favorite stand.
Next day he shows up and stand was gone. Told him he could pick it up behind my shop. He never came and got it and never hunted my property again.
Next day he shows up and stand was gone. Told him he could pick it up behind my shop. He never came and got it and never hunted my property again.
This post was edited on 11/17/18 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 11/17/18 at 1:46 pm to Tiger Prawn
My dad runs cattle on our property and I’m the only one who hunts. There are two different neighbors that help my dad out almost daily with ranching stuff and there have been many times that they’ll drive through the field I’m hunting in on a tractor or truck. It does bother me bc it’s a 5 hour drive for me to go hunt and I only get to go a few times a year. I normally try to let them know I’ll be out there so they wait after hunting hours to drive through but sometimes I forget. I never say anything to them about it bothering me bc they help out my dad so much so it just comes with the territory. And usually I’ll stay on the stand after they drive by and I have a conversation with them lol. Doesn’t bother the deer at all, they’re used to all the traffic on the farm.
ETA guess that’s a little different than your scenario. Our neighbors don’t ask permission to come in our property but they don’t really need it either
ETA guess that’s a little different than your scenario. Our neighbors don’t ask permission to come in our property but they don’t really need it either
This post was edited on 11/17/18 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 11/17/18 at 2:20 pm to Huntinguy
Thanks, y’all. Definitely some good advice. Y’all are right, it’s not the best thing but definitely isn’t a big deal in the grand scheme, especially considering they’ve done a lot for us over the years. I just personally wouldn’t contemplate riding on other folks’ property without them knowing so I expect everyone to operate that way.
I’m going to speak to them this evening with a cooler head and hopefully a deer in the cooler.
I’m going to speak to them this evening with a cooler head and hopefully a deer in the cooler.
Posted on 11/17/18 at 2:46 pm to Masterag
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so I holster my 9, chamber a round
Off topic but your gun should always be loaded if you plan on carrying it any capacity.
Posted on 11/17/18 at 2:59 pm to Masterag
Take a little time to settle down and then just ask them to check before riding during the season.
Posted on 11/17/18 at 3:04 pm to Masterag
Meh, I will play the contrarian on this one. If this family lives in the area and y’all are from out of town they have likely treated that property like it was their own since they have had access and will probably continue to do so until something drastic happens. They have likely been doing a lot more then just joyriding on your property over the years.
Posted on 11/17/18 at 3:05 pm to Masterag
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I think they could tell it bothered me.
I'd say they could probably tell for sure it bothered you. If they are good people like you say then I'd leave it alone for now and assume they get the message. Chalk it up to a bad decision on their part that night. I bet it won't happen again.
Don't under appreciate what a great thing it is to have someone you trust looking after your property. You certainly want to be on friendly terms vs enemies.
Posted on 11/17/18 at 3:34 pm to Masterag
Be passive and polite about it if you don’t want to risk feelings getting hurt.
Give it a week or so (let the idea that you are no longer thinking about it pop up in there mind) and go over there and have a beer and shoot the shite with them.
While there ask them what they do to manage their hunting land. This is the important part, LISTEN to what they have to say and let them own the conversation (show sincerity). They will then ask you (or give you an opening). At that point y’all about how you feed, what your buck regulations are (be it age, size,...) then mention how you like to keep a very small footprint during the season. Only driving on it when you need to, minimizing noise, minimizing traffic,... Then explain why.
Never point the fingers. Just take the opportunity to educate yourself and then. Maybe they have some tricks maybe not. Maybe they adopt yours and the deer in the area get better. But at that point (if they have any self awareness) they will get the point and not be an issue again. If they are, now you have the “right” to give them a piece of your mind.
Just a thought.
Give it a week or so (let the idea that you are no longer thinking about it pop up in there mind) and go over there and have a beer and shoot the shite with them.
While there ask them what they do to manage their hunting land. This is the important part, LISTEN to what they have to say and let them own the conversation (show sincerity). They will then ask you (or give you an opening). At that point y’all about how you feed, what your buck regulations are (be it age, size,...) then mention how you like to keep a very small footprint during the season. Only driving on it when you need to, minimizing noise, minimizing traffic,... Then explain why.
Never point the fingers. Just take the opportunity to educate yourself and then. Maybe they have some tricks maybe not. Maybe they adopt yours and the deer in the area get better. But at that point (if they have any self awareness) they will get the point and not be an issue again. If they are, now you have the “right” to give them a piece of your mind.
Just a thought.
Posted on 11/17/18 at 3:47 pm to Masterag
Buck fever makes people do and say strange things
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