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re: Dog Food Discussion (Science diet quality?)
Posted on 5/3/16 at 11:05 am to stoms
Posted on 5/3/16 at 11:05 am to stoms
We just switched our dog from Pro Plan to Science Diet. The transition went well at first, but she's beginning to turn her nose up at it now. I'll give it a few weeks and see how things are then
Posted on 5/3/16 at 11:19 am to Hammertime
quote:This.
Science diet is not top shelf. Blue buffalo isn't either
quote:And mostly this. A specialty store, like Neighborhood Pet Market, will carry some good stuff as well. It's where I get mine.
Top shelf dog food is usually bought at feed stores.
Whatever you get, take a hard look at the first 3 ingredients listed. That should give you a good idea of quality.
For instance, the food I use: Duck, Chicken meal, chicken. Duck and chicken are good quality proteins, chicken meal can be just about anything partwise.
Hill's Science Diet(Grain Free)-Chicken, Potatoes, yellow peas. See where this is going?
Posted on 5/3/16 at 12:56 pm to AlxTgr
Mine has Chicken allergy. We've been w Rabbit and Taters SD w great results .
Posted on 5/3/16 at 1:21 pm to Bamadiver
quote:I don't see a problem with those.
Hill's Science Diet(Grain Free)-Chicken, Potatoes, yellow peas.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 2:31 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
I don't see a problem with those
For the vast majority of dogs there isn't a problem with those. Grain free is also not nearly as important as some of the expensive food companies want you to believe. Most dogs do well with them.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 2:37 pm to stoms
Science diet gets a good rep because vets push it. Think of pharmaceutical sales reps getting their doctors to push their pills. It's not a "bad" food, but it's over priced since people think it's the best since a lot of vets sell it.
I did victor for a while. My dog liked it and it seemed fine. But, her urine started killing the grass shortly after. Switched off and that went away. I think it was only partially the food, other part was less rain at the time. But it's the first time that ever happened.
Diamond Naturals grain free is another good food that isn't as expensive as Blue Buffalo and Sci Diet. I just don't have it at the feed store by my house now.
Purina Pro-Plan has been good enough lately. I know it's not the best, but it's not killing my dog.
I did victor for a while. My dog liked it and it seemed fine. But, her urine started killing the grass shortly after. Switched off and that went away. I think it was only partially the food, other part was less rain at the time. But it's the first time that ever happened.
Diamond Naturals grain free is another good food that isn't as expensive as Blue Buffalo and Sci Diet. I just don't have it at the feed store by my house now.
Purina Pro-Plan has been good enough lately. I know it's not the best, but it's not killing my dog.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 2:47 pm to stoms
second dr Tim’s
I used to feed science diet as a puppy based on vet givaway and recommendations. Since then I've done some readings and made the switch to Dr. Tim's
If you have any questions, Dr Tim Hunt himself used to call/email you back (not sure if he still does). Great food, great company, and a pretty decent price for what you get.
I used to feed science diet as a puppy based on vet givaway and recommendations. Since then I've done some readings and made the switch to Dr. Tim's
If you have any questions, Dr Tim Hunt himself used to call/email you back (not sure if he still does). Great food, great company, and a pretty decent price for what you get.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 2:48 pm to wickowick
quote:
Victor
This is what my dogs get. Switched to it about 2yr ago, and have had great results with it.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 2:59 pm to AlxTgr
It's not the worst there is, but it's not great. Chicken is good, but it's 80%+ water. Once cooked, the actual feed weight is minimal. Potatoes have minimal nutritional value to dogs. The peas are there as a supplement to the chicken protein value at a very low cost to the manufacturer. The rest of the ingredients beyond these have a drastically lower value to the dogs (except some fatty acids). Any non-chelated minerals added are basically useless as they don't absorb.
Hill's can claim 22% protein, 33% fat and 45% carb content. The consumer may assume it's a meat-based protein, but its really a plant-based source which is considered to have a lower biological value.
Again, it's not terrible, and provided it isn't contaminated in any way it won't kill a dog. There are just many better options out there if you know what to look for and, in a few cases, are willing to pay for.
Hill's can claim 22% protein, 33% fat and 45% carb content. The consumer may assume it's a meat-based protein, but its really a plant-based source which is considered to have a lower biological value.
Again, it's not terrible, and provided it isn't contaminated in any way it won't kill a dog. There are just many better options out there if you know what to look for and, in a few cases, are willing to pay for.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 5:43 pm to stoms
Look at top five ingredients. Science diet is corn crap.
Natural balance and Wellness are better. Other good ones out there too. Avoid corn, wheat, grain
Natural balance and Wellness are better. Other good ones out there too. Avoid corn, wheat, grain
Posted on 5/3/16 at 5:56 pm to stoms
Science diet is a solid choice.
We feed our pups Pro Plan and they do great. Vet says it's a quality feed/value we just make sure a protein is the first ingredient. It's what he feeds his dogs.
When I was a kid in the 80's/90's our dogs did fine and lived a long time with grocery store brands.
Super premium food does make people feel good that they love they're dog a lot, which is a great thing. In some cases a dog may have specific allergies that require a special diet.
We feed our pups Pro Plan and they do great. Vet says it's a quality feed/value we just make sure a protein is the first ingredient. It's what he feeds his dogs.
When I was a kid in the 80's/90's our dogs did fine and lived a long time with grocery store brands.
Super premium food does make people feel good that they love they're dog a lot, which is a great thing. In some cases a dog may have specific allergies that require a special diet.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 5:59 pm to stoms
I have heard that if "corn" is any of the first three ingredients its less healthy for the dog. The further corn is from the first ingredient the better, and preferred out of the top three.
This post was edited on 5/3/16 at 6:17 pm
Posted on 5/3/16 at 6:01 pm to kaaj24
You do not know what you are talking about.
Science is corn corn corn unless it's a special formula.
Science is corn corn corn unless it's a special formula.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 6:06 pm to stoms
Wife is a Vet, we feed both our dogs Purina Pro Plan. One is on joint management, the other on one for allergies/sensitive stomach. Different foods work for different dogs. Try to get one that has a protein (not meal) as at least the first ingredient.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 6:31 pm to xenon16
quote:
If you have any questions, Dr Tim Hunt himself used to call/email you back (not sure if he still does). Great food, great company, and a pretty decent price for what you get.
He still does. Pretty damn quickly too
Posted on 5/3/16 at 7:45 pm to reds on reds on reds
Well, I had just put my old lab on Science Diet about two weeks ago. She is way over weight and having bad problems with joints. Per my daughter, a vet, she is the one that put my pup on it. My pup has lost a little weight and getting around a bit better. 
Posted on 5/3/16 at 8:41 pm to biohzrd
Just picked up a bag of Victor grain free today. Switching my German shepherd from science diet to this. Slowly mixing foods, upping ratio of Victor until we r 100% there. Will keep updated.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 9:37 pm to SquirrelBones
Science diet is mediocre at best. vets love to push that garbage.
Merrick and Fromm grain free are two good ones to check out as well.
Merrick and Fromm grain free are two good ones to check out as well.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 9:41 pm to stoms
I had a 17 year-old that ate Science Diet after her 5th birthday on.
I now have two 15 year olds that have eaten Science Diet most of their lives.
I like it.
I now have two 15 year olds that have eaten Science Diet most of their lives.
I like it.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 10:39 pm to prplhze2000
I appreciate the vote of confidence. I'm not a vet or food scientist.
I do foster dogs with medical conditions all the time in addition to my 3 dogs so I spend a lot more time with vets than typical dog owner. Just sharing the feedback I get from them as it is a frequent question I ask since I'm dealing with dogs with various issues. Lots of good food choices including science diet. Better sure but my dogs are happy and healthy.
I do foster dogs with medical conditions all the time in addition to my 3 dogs so I spend a lot more time with vets than typical dog owner. Just sharing the feedback I get from them as it is a frequent question I ask since I'm dealing with dogs with various issues. Lots of good food choices including science diet. Better sure but my dogs are happy and healthy.
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