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Cooling Barrel When Sighting It In?
Posted on 8/23/23 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 8/23/23 at 4:58 pm
I got a new scope on my Savage 308 and am wanting to take it to the range to sight it in. I know it’s hot and I could wait to do it right before the season starts, but I’m just wanting to throw some lead down range.
Generally when I sight in a rifle I shoot three shot about 3-5 mins apart. After each shot I open the chamber and pick the rifle up vertically to “let hot air out.” I then adjust the scope according to the group.
I’ve read about people using cold wet rags to lay on the barrel when sighting in. With 100* heat, would it be beneficial to do this?
Generally when I sight in a rifle I shoot three shot about 3-5 mins apart. After each shot I open the chamber and pick the rifle up vertically to “let hot air out.” I then adjust the scope according to the group.
I’ve read about people using cold wet rags to lay on the barrel when sighting in. With 100* heat, would it be beneficial to do this?
Posted on 8/23/23 at 4:58 pm to Tear It Up
Stick the whole gun in a 55gal drum of water
This post was edited on 8/23/23 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 8/23/23 at 5:02 pm to Tear It Up
YETI should sell a $500 barrel cooler. 

Posted on 8/23/23 at 5:14 pm to Tear It Up
Put the rifle in your truck with the a/c wide open.
Posted on 8/23/23 at 5:24 pm to Tear It Up
I’m too impatient for all that if I’m only shooting 1 gun. If I have multiple guns, I will switch them out every 6 rounds or so (usually doing 3 round ladder tests). But if I’m only testing 1 gun that day, I’m shooting however many loads I worked up pretty much back to back. Usually 12-15. You’d probably get better consistency if you let it cool, but I can’t just sit around the range doing nothing lol
On another note when sighting in, if you cleaned your barrel beforehand, according to my gunsmith you should shoot at least 8-10 rounds before zeroing and grouping to allow the copper build up in the rifling. Anyone else find this to be true?
On another note when sighting in, if you cleaned your barrel beforehand, according to my gunsmith you should shoot at least 8-10 rounds before zeroing and grouping to allow the copper build up in the rifling. Anyone else find this to be true?
Posted on 8/23/23 at 5:28 pm to Tear It Up
Maybe look at a barrel cooler. I have one and it makes a difference if shooting for groups. However, your ammo is just as important.
If you leave your ammo outside and allow it to heat up, it will shoot with higher pressures.
Leave the ammo in the car until you’re ready to shoot and just grab what you need. Then when you’re lining up your shot, do not load the cartridge in the chamber until you are almost ready to shoot.
If you leave your ammo outside and allow it to heat up, it will shoot with higher pressures.
Leave the ammo in the car until you’re ready to shoot and just grab what you need. Then when you’re lining up your shot, do not load the cartridge in the chamber until you are almost ready to shoot.
Posted on 8/23/23 at 6:24 pm to Tear It Up
Open bolt and stand rifle upright. Will get a bit of a chimney effect, pulling air in and up they the barrel. Put a cool rag on the outside of you must.
Posted on 8/23/23 at 6:50 pm to Tear It Up
Just shoot it. Heat doesn't affect decent barrels.
Posted on 8/23/23 at 7:13 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Just shoot it. Heat doesn't affect decent barrels.
It affects what the barrel is attached to/touches. Properly free-floated and attached to the receiver there should be minimal shift between cold shot 1 and the 10th shot. Heat also affects ammo, if allowed to heat-soak a chambered cartridge will have slightly higher FPS and therefore shift impact. Always something I was mindful of when developing hand loads
Posted on 8/23/23 at 7:47 pm to Tear It Up
I made a chamber chiller, basically a small fan with a funnel duct taped on it and a small piece of hose to stick it in the chamber and blow through the barrel. Works well. I bring it if I’m only shooting one gun. If I’m bringing multiple, I stand it up as others have suggested.
Posted on 8/23/23 at 9:34 pm to Tear It Up
Take the bore sight serious. Good bore sight will save ur shots needed.
Posted on 8/23/23 at 10:10 pm to LSUDUCKMAN67
Good scope makes it a 2 shot process.
Posted on 8/23/23 at 10:57 pm to Tear It Up
People are weird about barrels. A lot of it is silly, but wanting a cool barrel throughout the process of zeroing a hunting rifle just makes sense to me.
Posted on 8/23/23 at 11:09 pm to Clames
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Properly free-floated and attached to the receiver there should be minimal shift between cold shot 1 and the 10th shot.
I don't cool my barrel when I'm sighting in a gun. I usually go on 2-3 prairie dog hunt trips every year and usually will shoot 100-150 rounds/day. I don't cool the barrel down during a pd hunt so why cool it when sighting it in. On a hunt, I do change guns periodically to avoid potentially getting the chamber excessively hot and damaging it.
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Heat also affects ammo
Also true. MOST gunpowders are sensitive to temperature so that velocity and pressure drop in cold weather and increase in hot weather. Some powders are said to be insensitive to temperature, including the Hodgdon "Extreme" series of powders. I start load development from my prairie dog guns during the winter, but make a point to test a new load in warm weather. I don't want to load up a couple hundred loads tested during the winter cold weather and find out the load has excessive chamber pressure when shot in 95 deg weather on a pd hunt. I'm dealing w/ that problem now. I've got close to #100 loads using CFE 223 that have excessive chamber pressure. Saturday I did an experiment where I shot 6 of these rounds after they'd been sitting on ice for 90 minutes. Pressures were down slightly, but still excessive. Looks like I'll have to pull the bullets and drop the powder charge.
Posted on 8/24/23 at 6:28 am to A_bear
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I’m too impatient for all that if I’m only shooting 1 gun.
I’ve found this is the honest best idea, it keeps you from being impatient. Just bring 2-3 guns and set up an extra target. Shoot the other guns while you take some time sighting in your main gun of the day.
Posted on 8/24/23 at 10:49 am to baldona
All of my shots at a deer are from a cold, and usually clean barrel. That's all I got.
Posted on 8/24/23 at 5:39 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Just shoot it. Heat doesn't affect decent barrels.
This is the truth. A gun isn't a laser beam. It shoots into a cone so shot #1 or #10 will shoot into that cone. Your barrel won't walk shots because it's hot.
Shoot 1 or shoot 10. It makes no difference.
Posted on 8/24/23 at 5:50 pm to A_bear
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I’m too impatient for all that if I’m only shooting 1 gun. If I have multiple guns, I will switch them out every 6 rounds or so (usually doing 3 round ladder tests). But if I’m only testing 1 gun that day, I’m shooting however many loads I worked up pretty much back to back. Usually 12-15. You’d probably get better consistency if you let it cool,
You wouldn't get better consistency.
I'm going to shoot 2 new custom rifles next week. I'm going to shoot each for pressure then each one 10 shots. The gun will either shoot or it won't.
I've since learned that load development is just wasting time and money. It's not doing what you think it is and is seldom repeatable.
I'll test this next week and post the results.
Posted on 8/24/23 at 7:31 pm to saintsfan1977
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I've since learned that load development is just wasting time and money. It's not doing what you think it is and is seldom repeatable
This is quite possibly the dumbest thing I’ve heard when it comes to loading rounds. Unless you have some typos in here, do not ever load ammo for anyone other than yourself. How do you develop a load WITHOUT load development?! You just grab powder and blindly pour it into a cartridge and then slap some lead/copper on top and go “looks good to me!”????
Posted on 8/24/23 at 8:03 pm to saintsfan1977
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A gun isn't a laser beam. It shoots into a cone so shot #1 or #10 will shoot into that cone.
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I've since learned that load development is just wasting time and money. It's not doing what you think it is and is seldom repeatable.
Apparently you learned it in the span of 11 minutes
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