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re: Boat for both inshore and light offshore?
Posted on 4/13/16 at 2:47 pm to tilco
Posted on 4/13/16 at 2:47 pm to tilco
shite happens, why take chances. Especially for two snapper. Some bone-headed mistake can turn a good trip into a bad one no matter what boat you are on. When you go offshore, a "bad one" can easily turn deadly. I'd just rather be prepared. Two engines just give me a more warm and fuzzy feeling.
I know you CAN do it. Just not worth the risk to me. Craziest thing I've seen was one year for the tarpon rodeo. There was a guy out at west delta in a 17' whaler by himself. Only good thing was there were about 15 boats fishing the tarpon in that area, so if he got in trouble, there were boats around, but that's still a hell of a trip in a 17' whaler. Guy had 4 drift lines out and his bimini top up. Caught a tarpon on his casting line. We watched him get the bimini down and pick up all his drift lines while catching that tarpon BY HIMSELF, while at the same time having to control that boat. He bot that thing into the scales and made the board if I remember correctly. We were in awe that he was even out there and then completely stunned watching him catch the fish.
I know you CAN do it. Just not worth the risk to me. Craziest thing I've seen was one year for the tarpon rodeo. There was a guy out at west delta in a 17' whaler by himself. Only good thing was there were about 15 boats fishing the tarpon in that area, so if he got in trouble, there were boats around, but that's still a hell of a trip in a 17' whaler. Guy had 4 drift lines out and his bimini top up. Caught a tarpon on his casting line. We watched him get the bimini down and pick up all his drift lines while catching that tarpon BY HIMSELF, while at the same time having to control that boat. He bot that thing into the scales and made the board if I remember correctly. We were in awe that he was even out there and then completely stunned watching him catch the fish.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 3:59 pm to bigbuckdj
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Those shallow sport boats are pretty sweet. I just don't know how well they will work for running off shore.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 4:15 pm to GeauxTime9
I read the x3 is supposed to be able to handle light offshore pretty well w the 2 motors.
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This post was edited on 4/13/16 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 4/13/16 at 4:20 pm to donRANDOMnumbers
263 Calcutta would be the perfect Cocodrie boat.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 4:36 pm to CHEDBALLZ
Every boat you buy is a trade off of some sort. A bay boat with a lot of raised deck is a glorified bass boat. The deck is a great fishing platform when fishing inshore in calm water but almost worthless when fishing offshore in any type of sea over 1'. There are very few boats that can do both safely, and the one's who can are called a hybrid bay boat.
They generally have what is called a full transom "no raised deck in the rear" and a small deck in the bow. Some weight is saved by making the gunnel height shorter so the draft is less than an offshore boat. They are a great option to do both if you have the coins.
Just to name a few Sheaffer, Gause, Barracuda, Barker, Metal Shark, Marauder, Threadfin, Aeon.
Just remember when you venture out in the Gulf the saying I made up, "I would rather be home wishing I was offshore than offshore wishing I was at home."
They generally have what is called a full transom "no raised deck in the rear" and a small deck in the bow. Some weight is saved by making the gunnel height shorter so the draft is less than an offshore boat. They are a great option to do both if you have the coins.
Just to name a few Sheaffer, Gause, Barracuda, Barker, Metal Shark, Marauder, Threadfin, Aeon.
Just remember when you venture out in the Gulf the saying I made up, "I would rather be home wishing I was offshore than offshore wishing I was at home."
This post was edited on 4/13/16 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 4/13/16 at 5:24 pm to down time
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The cheaper kenner/mako/blazer 24s I've seen lately all need repowering, trailer work
Yep. But it's the hull you want. Repower w newer motor and your good to go.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 5:44 pm to rodnreel
The 23 Dorado look to fit that bill. There's a raised deck portion, but it's still doable.
They don't give them away though.
They don't give them away though.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 7:01 pm to Gaston
U need a small aluminum and a 25 twin engine boat. Both used. 30k for the big one and 6k for the small one.
My brothers 23 hydrosport bay bolt does it all pretty well though.
My brothers 23 hydrosport bay bolt does it all pretty well though.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 7:11 pm to rodnreel
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Just to name a few Sheaffer, Gause, Barracuda, Barker, Metal Shark, Marauder, Threadfin, Aeon.
You need to look at all of these. I also agree with the idea of just buying a small 18ft aluminum for inshore and a 25-27 for offshore.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 7:59 pm to donRANDOMnumbers
Great info guys, topic really took off.
Like the idea of a 25-28 footer with twins. Might eventually entertain the idea of a Gravois or the like.
Also love the look of the contender bay.
Anyway, the search and research will continue.
Like the idea of a 25-28 footer with twins. Might eventually entertain the idea of a Gravois or the like.
Also love the look of the contender bay.
Anyway, the search and research will continue.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 8:02 pm to donRANDOMnumbers
For anyone looking, check this out
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Was in this boat a few times. Jimmy made it for himself, it was the first edition of metal sharks newest bay line. He then made himself a cat, assume that's why this is for sale.
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Was in this boat a few times. Jimmy made it for himself, it was the first edition of metal sharks newest bay line. He then made himself a cat, assume that's why this is for sale.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 8:04 pm to boatless2
Just buy an offshore boat if you can afford a 27, you'll make friends with bay boat owners.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 9:00 pm to donRANDOMnumbers
Tideline 23 hybrid
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Posted on 4/14/16 at 7:05 am to KG6
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if I had a family and a camp that I was constantly making speck trips and the occasional snapper trip, I'd want a Gravois 24' with twin engines
pow pow had a 24 with a single tree hunnit on it before he passed away last year, he gave it to my aunt and uncle and it hasn't moved since.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:29 am to donRANDOMnumbers
I think, totally not sure, but think that Jimmy Gravois has a camp in Cocodrie a few down from a family member of mine. It was a rumor that it was his at least and it has had several different Gravois boats on the lift over the last few years. He (if it was him) at one time had an awesome looking aluminum bay boat. Not your typical aluminum battleship type boat, but a low gunwale look with very "attractive" lines that you typically only see in fiberglass. Was very jealous.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 10:30 am to Larry Gooseman
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Was in this boat a few times. Jimmy made it for himself, it was the first edition of metal sharks newest bay line. He then made himself a cat, assume that's why this is for sale.
This is Jimmy's personal boat but he hardly ever uses it. He has a smaller 20 or 21 dual console he prefers. This is a prototype step hull design.
He was in a bad accident over the weekend I hope he is doing well.
a twin engine is nice to have but not required for near offshore. 30 miles out and further is a whole different story.
This post was edited on 4/14/16 at 10:32 am
Posted on 4/14/16 at 11:17 am to Elusiveporpi
I have been fishing inshore and offshore in a 24' Bay Bolt for the last five years, I don't hesitate to take it up to 50 miles offshore on the right days. I have all the necessary saftey gear and then some so I don't sweat it. The boat truly rides better than my Pursuit 26' walkaround did. I think the Hydra-Sport is the best of both worlds as I can fish inshore or run 50 miles only burning 30 gallons of gas!
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