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Best pistol for home protection?

Posted on 8/1/17 at 8:33 pm
Posted by kjntgr
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
8921 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 8:33 pm
Wanting to purchase pistol for home protection. Something wife could handle also. Any suggestions?
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
28624 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 8:34 pm to
.20 or .12 gauge shotgun
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138865 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 8:35 pm to
The one you can shoot the best. Try out as many as you can and pick the best one.
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
11016 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 8:35 pm to
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.20 or .12 gauge shotgun


Those would be some big arse bores.

Posted by 4LSU2
Member since Dec 2009
38062 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 8:38 pm to
You can't go wrong with a good 357 in the nightstand.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 8:39 pm to
Full sized 9mm of your liking
Posted by Timmayy
Houston
Member since Mar 2016
1679 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 8:46 pm to
Glock 19, smith and Wesson m&p full size, Springfield xdm, H&k vp9, sig p320, sig legion 226, Walther ppq, FNS 9

All pistols in their full size or compact models and all in 9mm. Atleast look at all of them.

Rule out what isn't in your price range then start touchy feeling some. When you get it down to the top three have you and your wife shoot all three.

It's really hard to pick a bad gun out of that list
Posted by kjntgr
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
8921 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 8:57 pm to
Thanks Timmay
Posted by ChatRabbit77
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
5905 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 8:57 pm to
AR15 is the best home defense weapon for men or women.
Posted by kjntgr
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
8921 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:00 pm to
Yea. Kinda scary. Live in small subdivision. Just saw video of 5 people walking down street at 4am. They were running into peoples driveways( assume pulling on car doors).
Posted by Timmayy
Houston
Member since Mar 2016
1679 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:05 pm to
The advice on a home defense ar15 is not bad either. But do your best to seek some training on how to shoot. You will be amazed how quickly you become more proficient. Even if you were someone who "grew up shooting".
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
75253 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:08 pm to
German Shepherd and surveillance cameras.

Deadbolts, bars, security system. Motion detection flood lights around the property.

Once all those are in place, get an old rickety .32 police issue revolver for warning shots, and a 22 pistol for precision targeting.

Keep a buck knife in your car and boot, and anywhere else you can identify as a potential ambush point.

Start building up an immunity to iocane, and learn Judo.

Meditate daily. If you don't have time to meditate in your day, change your day.

Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
12226 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:31 pm to
quote:

AR15 is the best home defense weapon for men or women.


This is very true and is what I have next to my bed. But the OP must be willing to seek some training to become proficient with one. It doesn't take a genius but it isn't something that can be picked up quickly.

quote:

Full sized 9mm of your liking


And this is the best response. I'll copy and paste a bookmarked post I did a while back about getting your S/O a handgun:

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From myself and other reputable guys here, the most important thing to consider with the above statement is this:

Let her choose her own gun!

She's more likely to use it and be confident with it if it's something she chose herself. Of course you should only let her choose her own gun after she has tried a few different full sized guns to see what fits her best. But too many men will buy a handgun and just throw it in his wife's hand, "here, use this." This is a very bad way of going about it.

Now, with that being said, something else must be answered:

What does she plan to use it for? Home protection? Car gun? Carry gun?

And let me get this out of the way before I continue: for human targets, 9mm = 40 = 45 in terms of mythical "knockdown power." I choose 9mm because you get the most ammo in your magazine. On to the rest...

For any shooter, a larger gun (dimensionally, not caliber) is ALWAYS easier to shoot. A metal-framed full sized gun is even easier to shoot since it weighs more and negates one of the big barriers with new shooters (felt recoil). In this regard, weight isn't a terrible thing. But I always suggest a full sized 9mm to any new buyer regardless of the buyer's intended purpose. If he/she wants a smaller gun to carry he/she can get it later. But having the "base" for a good home defense handgun, i.e. full sized 9mm, is a great place to start. You get a full grip, a full length barrel, a large sight radius, more weight (less recoil), a lighter recoil spring (easier to rack), a full length rail (on the vast majority of them) and a larger magazine. These all make a full sized gun very easy to shoot. Add on a light under the rail (weight directly under the muzzle) and it will be even easier to shoot with less felt recoil.

Once the new shooter has mastered and trained well with a full sized handgun, he/she can work his/her way "up" to a smaller gun. The logic sounds backwards but it's quite basic actually. The smaller the gun, the sharper the recoil. Getting your wife a tiny 38 revolver may not be what's best for her because they are insanely difficult to shoot accurately. They make for a great belly gun but they have extremely long and heavy trigger pulls and have no sights to speak of. But, if she doesn't train often and learn to clear semi auto malfunctions or has difficulty with the controls, it may be easier. But anyone that tells you a woman cannot rack a slide is wrong. Yes, it is harder for them, but they are usually not using a proper racking method or the gun is tiny and has a stiff spring that takes practice to manipulate. Point your thumb toward your chest, gripping the slide behind the ejection port with the base of your palm and the tips of your fingers. Simultaneously grip the slide while pushing the gun from the grip of your hand on the slide. This will cause the slide to move all the way to the rear and slam forward on its own weight. This is the best way to properly rack a round into the chamber while utilizing large muscle groups (chest, shoulders) instead of isolating the forearms. Do not pull the slide back and then try to push it forward - it does not need your assistance. Allow the recoil spring to do the work.




For carry guns, most people usually have a rotation of guns, myself included. But I would say the best place to start in terms of a carry gun would be a single stack 9mm. The old adage that you hear is, "carry the largest gun you can comfortably carry." For most people, a full sized, full-gripped, double stack handgun will become cumbersome to carry and eventually be left at home for most people. What's the good in a carry gun if it isn't on you? This is where a single stack 9mm comes in handy - thinness, lightweight, and maximum ammo for its size (versus 40 and 45). Yes, it is more difficult to shoot than a full sized gun and carries a smaller magazine, but its intended purpose is for carry. It is ideal for this role. Rather than having the same gun do everything, having a gun for each role is better, albeit a bit more expensive.

But, for women, their tighter-fitting clothing makes finding a carry gun more difficult. There are other carry methods for women but I still think the best for any person is inside-the-waistband carry. There are a lot of blogs that deal with women's carry (cornered cat, a girl and a gun, the well armed woman) and know more about the topic than I do. But I do know they can be successfully carried this way. "But what about purse carry?" you ask...

I have never been a big fan of off-body carry. While pocket carry and inside-the-waistband carry are the two best, purse carry allows the carrier to put a larger gun in a convenient carrying case. The problem is that the gun is not in your possession and is simply out in the open hidden in a container. There was a story recently of a baby accidentally shooting his/her mother in the head with a gun carried in a purse. While purse carrying is better than not carrying at all, it can be seen as worse with a risk like this. Plus if you've ever seen a purse snatching live or on video, they are EXTREMELY violent. Imagine trying to retain control of your weapon if you're being drug around by your purse strap. It's a lose-lose.

So there's my suggestion - a full sized 9mm. I would keep it simple and avoid some guns that have safeties since they require more training. But ultimately her preference will beat anything out. Finding a gun that has a thin grip taper will ultimately be the most comfortable for someone with smaller hands. A few good examples from the big-player manufacturers for a first 9mm are:

S&W M&P
Springfield XD
Glock 17/19
Ruger SR9
Sig P320
Walther PPQ
HK VP9
FN FNS9

If these make her arms tired from holding for too long, then getting a "compact" may be slightly better. "Compact" simply means that the grip and slide are shorter than a full sized gun. The gun itself is typically still somewhat large and will produce more recoil than a full sized gun. But they are still easy to handle. Of the ones I listed up there^, nearly all of them have a compact counterpart.

If you'd prefer she'd have something lighter-recoiling that is heavier, there are a few metal-framed handguns to consider. They have a few more controls than most polymer guns and are hammer-fired, meaning the hammer that strikes the firing pin is visible on the outside of the gun. Some have safeties and decockers that require a bit more training but can be learned:

Sig Sauer P226/228/229
Beretta 92/96
CZ 75/P01
1911

All of these can be had in 9mm. If you step up the cartridge to 40 or 45, expect a bit more felt recoil.

If she prefers the simplicity of a revolver, I would suggest:

Ruger GP100 (4 inch)
S&W 686P (4 inch)

These are great full sized 357 revolvers that shoot even softer with 38 specials. Again, these are not snub-nose revolvers. The triggers will be better, the grip will be larger and more comfortable, and they will have much better sights. Plus, they will be either 6 or 7 shot instead of 5 giving you more ammo for the fight. If she doesn't plan on carrying her revolver, get her something full sized. I cannot stress this enough.
This post was edited on 8/1/17 at 9:38 pm
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34401 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:33 pm to
Glock 19, if it has to be a pistol. If only for home, get a riot shotgun - 8 + 1.
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
12226 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:39 pm to
quote:

If only for home, get a riot shotgun - 8 + 1.


If by "riot shotgun" you mean one with a longer magazine tube I agree.

If by "riot shotgun" you mean one with no stock, I strongly disagree.
Posted by WMTigerFAN
Ouachita
Member since Feb 2005
4995 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:40 pm to
Kids in the house?
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34401 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:49 pm to
Not that I care if you agree but I'm talking about a TacStar 10 shot mag ext on an 870.

Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
12226 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:57 pm to
quote:

Not that I care if you agree but I'm talking about a TacStar 10 shot mag ext on an 870.


Shotguns with no stock suck and I didn't know which you were referring to which is why I had both responses.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
12777 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 10:04 pm to
Don't take this the wrong way, but how big he your wife? If she is big enough to handle a 12 gauge, I would suggest a Benelli M4 with buckshot. Greater chance of hitting your target. Plus you won't have over penetration like you will with an AR.
This post was edited on 8/1/17 at 10:52 pm
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
72031 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 10:49 pm to
13ga, when 12ga is just a count hair too much

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