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re: Anybody else get shafted on the cooler deal?
Posted on 5/4/18 at 3:21 pm to pointdog33
Posted on 5/4/18 at 3:21 pm to pointdog33
I see your beyond hope...have a great day
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Posted on 5/4/18 at 3:26 pm to dltigers3
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I see your beyond hope
I'm not the one arguing against a stated calculated cost of driving a vehicle for work.
Posted on 5/4/18 at 3:29 pm to pointdog33
What work is he driving it for?
Does it cost the same in fuel and wear and tear to drive from St Louis to Memphis in a 1992 f250 as it does a 2015 Prius?
Let's do some actual calculation instead of going off the IRS write off rates
Figureing everything up around 550 miles round trip
Fuel at 17 mpg and 2.19/ gallon which is what it is in Memphis right now is $70.84
Tire wear for a 50,000 mile tire which cost let's say $1000 for a set of 4 is $11
Oil change for every 5000 miles at 50 bucks a change is $5.50
And according to AAA in 2015 which was the first year that popped up, it costs 5.11 cents per mile in maintenance to run a vehicle which comes to about $28
So that puts us to $115 or so, now tell me where the other almost $200 bucks comes from using actual calculations and not just assumptions
Does it cost the same in fuel and wear and tear to drive from St Louis to Memphis in a 1992 f250 as it does a 2015 Prius?
Let's do some actual calculation instead of going off the IRS write off rates
Figureing everything up around 550 miles round trip
Fuel at 17 mpg and 2.19/ gallon which is what it is in Memphis right now is $70.84
Tire wear for a 50,000 mile tire which cost let's say $1000 for a set of 4 is $11
Oil change for every 5000 miles at 50 bucks a change is $5.50
And according to AAA in 2015 which was the first year that popped up, it costs 5.11 cents per mile in maintenance to run a vehicle which comes to about $28
So that puts us to $115 or so, now tell me where the other almost $200 bucks comes from using actual calculations and not just assumptions
This post was edited on 5/4/18 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 5/4/18 at 3:35 pm to dltigers3
It's called the standard mileage rate because it's a standard size. Vehicle doesn't matter for the standard mileage rate.
Use doesn't really matter either. It's still a standard used to calculate the cost of operation.
Use doesn't really matter either. It's still a standard used to calculate the cost of operation.
Posted on 5/4/18 at 3:45 pm to pointdog33
But we are talking about the real world, so his vehicle size 100 percent matters.
If you were trying to calculate if this was a good business model, then I would agree that you have to use the standard rate, but we are talking about an actual person, with an actual vehicle.
And I still can't believe that you really want us to think that you wouldn't drive 500 miles for $1000 because it might cost you $265 in some make believe wear and tear. That's just dumb. You'd still be making close to $100 per hour
If you were trying to calculate if this was a good business model, then I would agree that you have to use the standard rate, but we are talking about an actual person, with an actual vehicle.
And I still can't believe that you really want us to think that you wouldn't drive 500 miles for $1000 because it might cost you $265 in some make believe wear and tear. That's just dumb. You'd still be making close to $100 per hour
Posted on 5/4/18 at 4:01 pm to dltigers3
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But we are talking about the real world
I live in that world and get paid that standard for my mileage in my vehicle. Hundreds of thousands of people get paid that standard rate regardless of vehicle.
It's not a make believe wear and tear because every mile you put on the vehicle depreciates the value. Every mile you travel increases the risk of an accident or mechanical failure. These factors are put into that rate.
It's a hypothetical trip that will never happen so it's easy to turn down.
I know your trying to juxtapose that trip with the purchase and travel associated with the ice chests.
My whole point to all of my posting to you in the tangent is that the savings aren't as massive as y'all think.
I'm glad y'all were able to save a few bucks, but I just don't see it as a big enough draw to go through all the hoops that had to be maneuvered to get an ice chest or 10.
Posted on 5/4/18 at 4:12 pm to pointdog33
Ok buddy. You still think the dude was only going to save a few bucks. And that's ok if you want to live in a fantasy world.
This will be my last response because you obviously don't live in the real world if you believe that every vehicle costs the same per mile to operate and maintain.
And the fact that you say you wouldn't drive 500 miles to make $750 net profit tells me you are just arguing to save face. Just because it was coolers that the guy was driving here for, instead of cold cash shouldn't matter
But I really do hope you have a great day. And I hope if you ever turn down someone willing to pay $1000 for a 500 mile round trip (like you claim you would) you'll send them my way.
Cheers man
This will be my last response because you obviously don't live in the real world if you believe that every vehicle costs the same per mile to operate and maintain.
And the fact that you say you wouldn't drive 500 miles to make $750 net profit tells me you are just arguing to save face. Just because it was coolers that the guy was driving here for, instead of cold cash shouldn't matter
But I really do hope you have a great day. And I hope if you ever turn down someone willing to pay $1000 for a 500 mile round trip (like you claim you would) you'll send them my way.
Cheers man
Posted on 5/4/18 at 4:14 pm to pointdog33
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pointdog33
You could fall face first into a barrel of pussy and come up with a dick in every hole.
Posted on 5/4/18 at 4:23 pm to dltigers3
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but for everyone to act like us from TN should be more flexible is moronic. I specifically asked if he could deliver before I ever ordered. Had he even hinted that it would be inconvenient for him I wouldn't have ever ordered. As it was, he said he came to Memphis all the time. Got the 2nd container in and he told us that he had a hunting buddy that was bringing them up on December 21st. Was always very responsive to emails, but then his buddy never showed up on the 21st, and he stopped responding to emails or texts.
Went through about 2 more months of sporadic emails with him telling us we would for sure get out coolers by early February. Then no more contact. By the end of February I had requested a refund from him and he never came through. So I filed a dispute with PayPal and luckily got my money back.
I hold no ill will towards him and understand that this all got too big to manage, but for his buddies here defending him and calling us idiots, keep in mind that I never forced him into this cooler buy or begged him to deliver to Memphis. He took on both on his own. I assume he is an adult and as such should be responsible for his actions (and promises)
All of this. I still don't have any ill will toward him, but his inability to respond to requests since the silence in December is the troubling part. I also asked him multiple times about his ability to come to Tennessee (Memphis) and meet up with those of us north of Louisiana.
None of this would have been an issue if he would just respond to folks with updates on options or why he was unavailable. That isn't hard at all to communicate, especially with folks who in good faith paid their money when requested.
Posted on 5/4/18 at 4:24 pm to kywildcatfanone
Did people from the third container get theirs? How are the 110’s on wheels?
Posted on 5/4/18 at 4:25 pm to X123F45
I'll let you know if I ever come across a barrel of pussies so we can test that theory.
Y'all are the only geniuses who think taking a net loss on a purchase is actually a gain because of the discounted price.
Not to mention that the only reason the purchases were made was because of the discounted price.
So not only did y'all lose money, you also bought things you didn't need and wouldn't have bought in under normal circumstances.
And on top of that you count your time as valueless and discount your mileage to get the aforementioned products.
But I'm the idiot...
Y'all are the only geniuses who think taking a net loss on a purchase is actually a gain because of the discounted price.
Not to mention that the only reason the purchases were made was because of the discounted price.
So not only did y'all lose money, you also bought things you didn't need and wouldn't have bought in under normal circumstances.
And on top of that you count your time as valueless and discount your mileage to get the aforementioned products.
But I'm the idiot...
Posted on 5/4/18 at 4:32 pm to pointdog33
How do you know he doesn’t have a Tesla?
You’re arguing for no reason to try and prove that you’re right when the exact opposite is true.
You’re arguing for no reason to try and prove that you’re right when the exact opposite is true.
Posted on 5/4/18 at 4:34 pm to bbvdd
Y’all don’t understand what standard means.
Posted on 5/4/18 at 4:36 pm to pointdog33
No we do. You don’t understand that the government standard has absolutely zero bearing on this situation.
Posted on 5/4/18 at 4:38 pm to bbvdd
It has everything to do with it. It’s the basis of how many many people get reimbursed. It’s the standard that is used to account for all the variables y’all keep adding.
So basically the variables added mean nothing because the standard accounts for it.
So basically the variables added mean nothing because the standard accounts for it.
Posted on 5/4/18 at 5:07 pm to pointdog33
Just shut up. You’re being obtuse.
Posted on 5/4/18 at 5:07 pm to bbvdd
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How do you know he doesn’t have a Tesla?
How did he plan to bring 10 coolers back in a Tesla?
Posted on 5/4/18 at 5:14 pm to bbvdd
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Just shut up. You’re being an arse
This post was edited on 5/4/18 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 5/4/18 at 5:16 pm to Buster180
According to pointdog, whether it's a Tesla or a lifted f350 dually they cost the same to operate so it doesn't matter
And do you also take the standard deduction on your taxes, or do you itemize to save yourself money? This is the same principle. There might be a standard amount per mile, but if you itemize it for your specific vehicle it will be a hell of a lot different.
But methinks you're just arguing for the sake of it at this point anyway
And do you also take the standard deduction on your taxes, or do you itemize to save yourself money? This is the same principle. There might be a standard amount per mile, but if you itemize it for your specific vehicle it will be a hell of a lot different.
But methinks you're just arguing for the sake of it at this point anyway
This post was edited on 5/4/18 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 5/4/18 at 5:26 pm to dltigers3
Y’all are too emotionally attached to idea of the cooler deal to see it really wasn’t a deal.
You paid the actual price for a cheap Chinese knock off but are valuing as a brand name product.
I’m tired of trying g to explain how standards work and got some fish to fry and beer to drink.
You paid the actual price for a cheap Chinese knock off but are valuing as a brand name product.
I’m tired of trying g to explain how standards work and got some fish to fry and beer to drink.
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