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2024 Snake Extravaganza (Friday Day 5 update)

Posted on 3/3/24 at 10:01 pm
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 3/3/24 at 10:01 pm
My youtuber friend flew in from Utah late Friday night, and we kicked off the trip with 1 day in Louisiana at a couple favorite spots before heading to Florida today. It’s a little earlier in the year than I’d like, but he plans it around his spring break.
Still managed to snag a few snakes on a cool, rainy day in La. to jumpstart the trip though. I’ll update at the end of the trip, but here’s a little teaser from day 1….















9 snakes, 6 species on a less than ideal day. My co-conspirator is jumping ship in Orlando on Friday, but I’m continuing on down to the ‘Glades alone for a few extra days afterwards.

ETA:
First day hunting Florida. Going for quality over quantity - not going to find 127 snakes like last year. We’re mostly targeting the stuff we missed last year.

First thing we cruised up in Apalachicola was, appropriately, a gorgeous little Florida Cottonmouth.





After 70 miles of back-road cruising and searching, we were pumped to finally get one of our major targets basking on a roadside log - a Dusky Pygmy Rattlesnake.



My youtuber friend trying his best to get bitten in the face by a rattlesnake…



On to St. Mark’s, where we were lucky to find a Red-bellied snake.



Arrived in Gainesville tonight. Started out in Folsom, La. but logged 1,000 miles so far.

Day 2 in Florida:

No luck on the snakes today - conditions were pretty poor. Plenty gators seen, including 7 babies…and this chonky beast…



Dat’s a tree-shakuh right dere.

Day 3 turned out to be a career day for me - got 2 of the biggest targets I’ve literally dreamed about catching my entire life.
After walking over 2 hours through pine savannah with only a brief glimpse of a fleeing black racer, I happened across this little guy…





All my life I’ve wanted to catch a tri-color - a milk, scarlet, or scarlet king. And of those, I find the scarlet kingsnake to be the prettiest because of the yellows (whereas La. milks and scarlets tend to be red/black/white). Dream come true when I caught a glimpse of this thing out the corner of my eye.

Still riding the high of that catch, we hit another spot. After walking a couple hours thru sandy prairie, I was headed back to the car and almost stepped on this…



Southern hognose.



Hognoses have been one of my favorites since childhood, but they’ve evaded me for 50+ years. Total disbelief when I realized what it was. Even better, the second I picked it up it started playing dead.





It was just surreal to find both of these just hours apart. Best fricking day ever!

Day 4 was stellar as well - quality over quantity. Probably 10 hours searching our coachwhip spot over the past couple days, and we finally got one (the youngster found it and ran it down). It’s my first time seeing one in person, and it’s just an impressive, gorgeous snake. Approximately 6 ft. long!









Day 5 - final day for my compadre. He flew back to Utah while I continued on to the Everglades. But first, in the morning we hit the coral spot hard again, but only saw a couple black racers.

On the way to our next spot we detoured for a quick 10 minute check of another spot and got a Pine Woods Littersnake.





Made one last stop and picked up another little guy - a beautiful Southern ring-necked snake. Prettiest ring-neck I’ve ever seen.





Ethan really is the fossorial-whisperer. He truly has a knack for putting in the work to flip these small, reclusive snakes.

I made my way solo down to the Everglades pretty late but couldn’t resist a quick look at my favorite spot. No snakes were up past midnight but the gators were out in force.







Day 6 - my first full solo day down in South Florida. I hit a spot in Big Cypress (right around the northern edge of the Everglades). Hit it hard, during daylight hours and into the night. ZERO snakes. It was baffling - at the same spot last year around the same time of year, we got 23 snakes in 2 days. Did get to play with the gators (gave one big one a little tail slap), saw a couple groups of baby gators, and saw a couple giant softshell turtles.





Final day, I hit Everglades National Park first to see the American crocodiles and manatees. Had an Everglades racer cross my path when I made a restroom stop, but he was on the move - couldn’t get a good pic.



Here’s a better pic of one we got last year:



Pulled up to the crocodile spot and got to see a crocodile or two:



…and just happened to get there minutes after a guy was attacked by the big croc and airlifted out (as I documented in the other thread).

Headedout and finished off the trip by doing some road cruising. Got a beautiful Eastern garter snake in the first few minutes…



Then just a few minutes later hit another major score!



Scarlet snake! First of my life (not to be confused with my lifer scarlet kingsnake), and my main target in the Everglades (aside from a python, but it’s still a bit early for those).

Next, cruised up a Florida cottonmouth and found another just a few feet away when I went to check him out.





Next, found another garter then a banded water snake.



Was about to call it a night (& a trip), then decided to make one more pass and BOOM! Another scarlet - my 3rd tri-color of the trip!!!





Not nearly the 127 snakes we found last year, but the quality was just mind boggling. I caught things I’ve dreamed about (literally) since childhood.

6 species on our 1 day in La., 14 species in Fla.
This post was edited on 3/13/24 at 10:05 am
Posted by HoboDickCheese
The overpass
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Posted on 3/3/24 at 10:08 pm to
Posted by NOLAGT
Over there
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/3/24 at 10:28 pm to
Those mud snakes are so pretty.
Posted by gerald65
Moss Bluff, LA
Member since Jul 2020
710 posts
Posted on 3/3/24 at 11:36 pm to
Lets see if I am correct.

Pic 1 & 2 young mud snakes
Pic 3 Rat snake
Pic 4 Gray racer [but really looks too fat to be a racer]
Pic 5 Cotten mouth
pic 6 banded water snake.
Pic 7 Garder snake.

Did I get at least 3 right?
This post was edited on 3/3/24 at 11:39 pm
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 3/4/24 at 5:30 am to
The thing that has me doubting racer is the fact that its mouth isn't attached to the handler's arm. I would have added broad to the banded.
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7100 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 6:16 am to
Pretty close. Broadbanded as Alx said, and ribbon not garter. Though the ribbon is doing his best garter impression. I initially thought it was a garter the way it flattened itself out. The racer is the thickest I’ve seen - and it’s possibly an intergrade black racer/black-masked racer. It was caught on the land bridge that connects the north & south shore, so both blacks & black masks co-exist and interbreed there. This one was missing a couple characteristics that intergrades have, but the color was different than any racer I’ve seen. The color was somewhere between a black & black masked, but the photo doesn’t do it justice.

ETA: The distinguishing marks separating ribbon and garter are the little white/yellowish patch right in front the eye on the ribbon, and vertical dark lines on the lips of the garter. Usually at a quick glance the thickness separates them. Once this ribbon un-flattened himself, he was way thinner than he looks.
This post was edited on 3/4/24 at 6:29 am
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
6250 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 7:15 am to
In pic6, that's a cottonmouth right?

Are you not just a little concerned that he might turn around and take a taste of your skin?
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7100 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 7:25 am to
Pic6 is actually the broad-banded water snake…though I do tail cottons occasionally too. But a bit more cautiously.
Posted by Outdoorreb
Member since Oct 2019
2510 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 8:40 am to
quote:

The thing that has me doubting racer is the fact that its mouth isn't attached to the handler's arm. I would have added broad to the banded.


I can remember in Herpetology Lab where the professor got bit in the face by about a 4’ racer. We were on a lake that was drained for some kind of repairs, I can’t remember if it was the boat ramp or something else. He grabbed the tail and was trying to get in a clear area to show the students. He had to step up where the lake had eroded the old high water line and that is when the snake decided to whip up and strike. The racer left about a 1/2” cut, barely missing his eye.

I don't know how bad that could have been, but he probably would have lost that eye or extremely diminished his vision if it cut his eye like that.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81604 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 8:54 am to
quote:

The distinguishing marks separating ribbon and garter are the little white/yellowish patch right in front the eye on the ribbon
I only learned this within the last 10 years or so. I just assumed all snakes I saw like that were garters. Turns out, 100% of the ones I see in my little area are ribbons. I was not home when our little predator brought this up to the porch,

Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
21420 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 10:45 am to
quote:

The thing that has me doubting racer is the fact that its mouth isn't attached to the handler's arm.


This! I see non-venomous snakes described as "harmless" all of the time....While the harm may be on shortlived, a racer will impose his attitude on you and make you think he's worse that he actually is.

Great photos! Might have to take a walk in the woods soon. Seems a little early in the year but the temps obviously have them moving around.
Posted by caro81
Member since Jul 2017
4865 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 11:25 am to
pic 4. is that an eastern indigo or just a big arse racer?
This post was edited on 3/4/24 at 11:28 am
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 3/4/24 at 2:47 pm to
quote:

I do tail cottons occasionally too


have you ever been bitten?
Posted by duckblind56
South of Ellick
Member since Sep 2023
1083 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 4:49 pm to
You do snakes and I think I'll drive on up to Mountain View, AR for the bluegrass festival and some jamming in The Square.

I've never had a quitar bite me..........
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
118943 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 6:19 pm to
I watch that nfherping guy on YouTube. He doesn't pick up the venomous ones, and I never understand how he isn't covered in poison ivy all the time.
Posted by WeagleEagle
Folsom Prison
Member since Sep 2011
1914 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 6:23 pm to
You gonna stop in north Florida? I have some big diamond backs. I’ve seen 2 over 6 ft the last 2 years. I’ve got a good idea of where one is denning or was. I almost stepped on a big one in January. It was the day before it got real cold. I was walking to my blind looking at tracks heard a swoosh sound. The snake popped up rattling like crazy. I damn near spilled my beer. It could’ve got me if it wanted to. It wouldn’t budge. I threw shite at it and it got madder. I finally walked through the woods to get by. It raised hell rattling for another 20 minutes. I try not to kill them unless I have to. I was also 20 yds from my ground blind that had damn good buck activity. I’m not sure how to post pics but I have a video of it. It was madder than hell.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 3/4/24 at 6:36 pm to
saw two at cecil field one fishing the other turkey hunting - impressive animals.
Posted by WeagleEagle
Folsom Prison
Member since Sep 2011
1914 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 7:32 pm to
Saw a real big one 2 October's ago. I could see it 50 yds away. I got my dog in the truck. It was stretched out across the road. It’s was a chilly 50ish degrees. I decided I was gonna pen its head down with a stick and pick it up. I got my stick near it and it turned and looked at me. I got in my truck and turned around and drove home.
Posted by pilsnerpusher
Member since Sep 2009
1360 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 8:15 pm to
They sure are! To the OP: what is the latest prevailing theory on the purpose of the hard point on the red bellied mud snake’s tail? Last I heard it was believed to be a means of pinning slimy prey.
Posted by chew4219
Member since Sep 2009
2723 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 9:23 pm to
I watch his stuff all the time. Man they find a butt load of snakes.
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