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re: 2 Mudboats Sink in river near Venice

Posted on 11/9/15 at 4:13 pm to
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 4:13 pm to
Surface drives certainly have their place but that place is not on public land or land that is being restored via public funds.

For those who say they use a surface drive responsibly; what do you consider responsible use of an air-cooled surface drive?
Posted by jdavid1
Member since Jan 2014
2638 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 4:17 pm to
quote:

I heard about a potential motion to ban mud motors after 2 pm on Pass a Loutre this year not hunting just mud motors many against that


The only way this will pass will be to shut down all hunting after 2pm similar to the refuge. You can't just tell a guy he can't drive his boat around and fish because it's a mud motor. I do believe the refuge holds more birds because of less afternoon pressure and the restricted area. I wouldn't mind them shutting hunting down in the afternoon on the WMA, but at the same time I really don't want to see any more restrictions on duck hunting than we already have.


Posted by Da Hammer
Folsom
Member since May 2008
5993 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 4:26 pm to
This is an area where I somewhat disagree with you. I am not married to the idea either way it won't change how I hunt, I find it easier to hunt with a pirouge and more flexible so that's how I hunt down there 90% of the time.

However keeping boat traffic out of the resting area for the ducks would help them settle down in areas that are harder to reach, thereby generating rest areas without closing an entire area to hunting. IMO this is the best idea I have heard of yet which allows compromise for those that say if you stop afternoon hunting it doesn't allow for people to hunt the tides, while at the same time it allows for some rest for the birds which those that want it closed after a certain time to all hunting want. I am not saying it will ever happen but I thought it was a good compromise and if I was ever asked it would be something I would support.
Posted by jdavid1
Member since Jan 2014
2638 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 4:28 pm to
quote:

Surface drives are the crossbow of duck hunting.


GFY


quote:

what do you consider responsible use of an air-cooled surface drive?


The main thing is not tearing arse all through the marsh. Going in and out with minimal use. You can tell the difference in somebody who drives like an adult vs young thundercats blasting through everything at 30mph throwing a rooster tail 60ft behind them.
Posted by Sparkplug#1
Member since May 2013
7352 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 4:58 pm to
If the idiots continue to destroy our wetlands, there is really only one option. Shut them all down. This is why we can't have nice things.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
48870 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 5:27 pm to
I see this is a Venice thread but surface drives have been banned in many spots in the atchafalaya WMA for a while and it's only going to get more restrictive, for good reason

many people just cannot resist tear-assing over easily damaged marshland and generally annoying everyone and every game animal out there
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 5:37 pm to
quote:

many people just cannot resist tear-assing over easily damaged marshland


The argument is they shouldn't be going there in first place. Even going slow is still causing damage.
Posted by Whatafrekinchessiebr
somewhere down river
Member since Nov 2013
1712 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 5:41 pm to
Sparkplug gets it...

From Jdavid:
quote:

There will always be idiots on public land


I made a pm hunt in PAL and watched 7 boats ride through the same bay pushing the same ducks on a 2 hr hunt. That is crazy. You're right there will always be idiots on public land but we shouldn't continue to make it so easy for these frickers to harass birds on public land in the name of "scouting." No doubt there are the "good" guys who edge into a pond and watch how the birds naturally work an area then ease out but I have seen far to many of the other guys that insist on blowing through every pocket of poule d'eaus or ducks they see and scatter them to the wind to think the good guys are in the majority.
Posted by Redfish2010
Member since Jul 2007
15231 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 5:43 pm to
quote:


Your beef is with the Biloxi land corp.


Obviously. But there's no doubt that they pressured LDWF with the ban. There's also no denying that plenty of schmucks ran around the place in their surface drives with 0 regard to the habitat.
Posted by Redfish2010
Member since Jul 2007
15231 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 5:51 pm to
quote:

r those who say they use a surface drive responsibly; what do you consider responsible use of an air-cooled surface drive?



The trick is only using the "mud motor" as a last resort. Treat it like an outboard and only go places that don't carry the risk of getting stuck. Keeping the motor trimmed up unless absolutely necessary. If you find yourself in a bad spot, trim down and get out of it but don't go looking for mud and marsh grass to jump
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
48870 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 5:58 pm to
agreed but you know and I know the fact a mud motor is back there makes people go deeper and deeper, or cross over spots they couldn't otherwise

when I get stuck I get out and push
Posted by Redfish2010
Member since Jul 2007
15231 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 6:02 pm to
I'm in the minority here, no doubt.
Posted by MarshMan
Ponchatoula
Member since May 2015
670 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 7:57 pm to
Seen where the guy commented on FB that when they got rescued they had to leave all their stuff behind. All their shite was stolen decoys, yeti, etc. they got some low down people out there!!!!
Posted by Manchac Man
Member since Dec 2014
1510 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:13 pm to
Thin the crowd. Pirogue on all WMA's.
Posted by White Bear
probably
Member since Jul 2014
17618 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:41 pm to
Can someone tell me why mm's have too be so effing loud? Cool factor or what?
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
15074 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:50 pm to
Exhaust isn't underwater like an outboard.
Posted by White Bear
probably
Member since Jul 2014
17618 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:55 pm to
I understand that. I have a 23 long tail and it isn't vert loud and has a stock muffler on it. Do those loud arse mufflers make that much of a difference performance wise? I'd guess not but don't know.
Posted by Slickback
Deer Stand
Member since Mar 2008
28144 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 10:23 pm to
Ban stupid people
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
15074 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 10:31 pm to
Ah, it's the same as any other motor. The quieter the muffler makes the motor the more restrictive the muffler is. That's why race cars run straight headers.
This post was edited on 11/9/15 at 10:32 pm
Posted by MarshMan
Ponchatoula
Member since May 2015
670 posts
Posted on 11/10/15 at 5:17 am to
Yes running a performance muffler makes a pretty big difference when you have all the other parts to go with it.
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