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re: What happens if BP North American files for bankruptcy??

Posted on 6/5/10 at 1:32 pm to
Posted by Droplinebacker
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/5/10 at 1:32 pm to
Sid, you are correct. And yes, 10% is Mitsui.
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
20591 posts
Posted on 6/5/10 at 1:43 pm to
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BP said they'll take care of it.


And they have the ability to do so without filing for bankruptcy. The only question is will they what with our prez calling them out and threatening them everyday. The law requires BP to clean up the spill and pay for it. There is no time requirement. The law also caps their liability at 75 million, if memory serves. How many more times will BP listen to crap like a boot on their neck or they can't pay the dividend before they tell the obamawan to F off. You get what the laws says and that's it.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34216 posts
Posted on 6/5/10 at 2:00 pm to
the 75 M cap is if BP is found of no wrong doing.
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46978 posts
Posted on 6/5/10 at 2:02 pm to
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the 75 M cap is if BP is found of no wrong doing.


I didn't know that, and I'm very glad to hear it.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34216 posts
Posted on 6/5/10 at 2:09 pm to
The company would have to pay for direct cleanup and containment costs, but the cap on other economic damages, such as lost business and tax revenue, is $75 million. If the company is found to be negligent or to have willfully violated federal regulations, however, there is no limit to what it could pay under the Oil Pollution Act of 1990.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34216 posts
Posted on 6/5/10 at 2:13 pm to
With the Oil Pollution Act, the amount of money required by BP to pay is directly linked to how much oil has spilled. What a crock for BP's low ball estimates.
Posted by Ray Ray Rodman
Florida
Member since Mar 2005
17654 posts
Posted on 6/5/10 at 2:16 pm to
The way things are going, BP better hope the only bad things that happen to them are fines, lawsuits and cleaning up oil and damage.

People are getting really mad. How long before some good ole cajun boy decides to take matters into his own hands?
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34216 posts
Posted on 6/5/10 at 2:18 pm to
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People are getting really mad


As oil is affecting other states the pressure is just beginning to ramp up on BP.

Blaming the govt for BPs mess and responsibility is simply not the answer. With oil soaked pelicans on the front page of newspapers around the country word is getting out and people will be furious with BP for their carelessness.
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
20591 posts
Posted on 6/5/10 at 2:19 pm to
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negligent or to have willfully violated federal regulations


Be a long hard road to get that conclusion for two reasons. First the rig has capsized making physical evidence problematic. Secondly, BP wasn't running the rig operations. Sure in the end BP might be found negligent. How long will that take? The Exxon Valdez spill was litigated for 21 years. How many shrimpers can wait that long? The point I make is this can be done the easy way (BP on board and doing right) or the hard way (the prez pisses them off and we go to court). Tell me, which is better?
Posted by Ray Ray Rodman
Florida
Member since Mar 2005
17654 posts
Posted on 6/5/10 at 2:22 pm to
frick BP!! I would rather do it tha hard way and have their asses tar and feathered!

frick a threat from BP!!!
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34216 posts
Posted on 6/5/10 at 2:25 pm to
BP caused this mess. I applaud the president for telling BP to show some urgency in the matter.

BP's hiring of prison release workers with very little supervision simply shows they do not care and only worried about PR.

Lives are at stake and the nations most productive ecosystem is turning into a wasteland. Yet we should all wait on BPs timetable to do things?
Posted by TenTex
Member since Jan 2008
15949 posts
Posted on 6/5/10 at 4:11 pm to
BP will take the most favorable Legal Financial path possible. It does not matter what they are saying right now.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 6/5/10 at 4:38 pm to
BP has a lot riding on this.........like their continued operation in the GOM.

They will not give us the finger because they have too much riding on it. They have the most leases with the most reserves and are currently producing the most in the GOM.

Trust me, they want this well to be capped and this to go away. They will do what it takes.
Posted by just me
Front of the Class: Schooling You
Member since Mar 2006
34489 posts
Posted on 6/5/10 at 8:56 pm to
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the prez pisses them off and we go to court
Really?!?!

You think they will choose a course of action based on their reaction to what the President says?
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49661 posts
Posted on 6/6/10 at 7:50 pm to
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BP's hiring of prison release workers with very little supervision simply shows they do not care and only worried about PR.



Well they do work cheaper than Messicans.

just sayin...
Posted by TenTex
Member since Jan 2008
15949 posts
Posted on 6/7/10 at 6:58 am to
BP's PR team was hired on who they liked best, not who was the best at PR. At that level of decision making its all about bringing in who you like the best and everyone makes a boat load of money off the Gravy Train. Now that BP has to use the stiffs they hired they are getting horrible PR.
Posted by LSUDad
Still on the move
Member since May 2004
62551 posts
Posted on 6/7/10 at 8:23 am to
How long after the Valdez did Exxon merge (FYI, it was a Hostil Takeover) with Mobil? Remember these oil companies go in partnership all the time. Think of all the gas thats sold in one day in the US. If all raise the price 5 cent a gal., how much money is that a day?


If BP files for bankruptcy, obama would like to take them over, just like GM.....
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
29741 posts
Posted on 6/7/10 at 11:20 am to
BP will file for bankruptcy protection. Currently they have $5 billion in cash, $5 billion in a credit line, and $5 billion set aside in reserves for a total of $15 billion dollars.

Given that they know they are going to blow through $15 billion in the next 10 to 18 months this company is assured of going under.

Once BP does under then Anadarko will be the second to fall. The early estimates of the impact of this oil spill (before it even hits the Florida Keys & Atlantic seaboard) are $25 to $35 billion.

Bottom line is to take the early settlement if they offer it and wash your hands now before you stuck with .05 on the dollar.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 6/7/10 at 11:27 am to
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BP will file for bankruptcy protection. Currently they have $5 billion in cash, $5 billion in a credit line, and $5 billion set aside in reserves for a total of $15 billion dollars.

Given that they know they are going to blow through $15 billion in the next 10 to 18 months this company is assured of going under.

Once BP does under then Anadarko will be the second to fall. The early estimates of the impact of this oil spill (before it even hits the Florida Keys & Atlantic seaboard) are $25 to $35 billion.

Bottom line is to take the early settlement if they offer it and wash your hands now before you stuck with .05 on the dollar.



This is what I have been hearing too.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 6/7/10 at 11:34 am to
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Given that they know they are going to blow through $15 billion in the next 10 to 18 months this company is assured of going under.


Didn't they just pay a $15B dividend? I would expect that their profit had to be very substantial to warrant a $15B dividend.
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