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re: Links to live feeds from remotely operated vehicles (ROV)

Posted on 6/3/10 at 10:10 pm to
Posted by Sam Waterston
Baton Rouge
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2015 posts
Posted on 6/3/10 at 10:10 pm to
saw on fox news anywhere from 12-24 hours
Posted by CBLSU316
Far Right of Left
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11429 posts
Posted on 6/3/10 at 10:11 pm to
redstick.....you are saying the gas came up on the backside of the casing? That was my thought as well. If you have the time give your best scenario of what you think happened to cause the explosion.
Posted by aldawg2323
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2010
494 posts
Posted on 6/3/10 at 10:14 pm to
LINK

dont know if yall have heard this. insightful
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
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Posted on 6/3/10 at 10:18 pm to
quote:

redstick.....you are saying the gas came up on the backside of the casing? That was my thought as well. If you have the time give your best scenario of what you think happened to cause the explosion.


Yes. They likely had channeling in their cement job which was only to the bottom of their last casing string. They had no cement overlap inside of the previous string. I think it's likely gas was channeling behind the long string and building up pressure against the upper seals at the wellhead. Once the upper seals gave way it probably thrust the top of the 9 5/8 inch casing up into the BOP stack. That's why they had so little time to react on the Horizon. The gas would have shot up the riser like a rocket and the pressure would have been far to much for the annular preventer to handle when the driller closed it. When the explosion tripped the dead man I think the shear rams activated but they aren't able to shear through the top of the 9 5/8 casing string jammed up in the BOP.
This post was edited on 6/3/10 at 10:20 pm
Posted by CBLSU316
Far Right of Left
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 6/3/10 at 10:21 pm to
Ok so this is one of my thoughts as well. the gas came up and was brought the gas into the intake of the diesel engines which would explain why some accounts say one of the engines was revving wildly, this then caused the first explosion.

What do ya think?
Posted by nuwaydawg
Member since Nov 2007
2273 posts
Posted on 6/3/10 at 10:21 pm to
I'm watching Skandi ROV I. I see the yellow leveler. I see a blue hose that is pumping methanol. I see an oil dispersant sprayer.

Is the top hat in that oil plume? Is it locked down and sealed on the cut riser section? Is there a valve above the tophat that is pushing the flow back out of the grommet?
Posted by Sam Waterston
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
2015 posts
Posted on 6/3/10 at 10:25 pm to
quote:

Is the top hat in that oil plume?


yes, part of it, the rest is below

quote:

Is it locked down and sealed on the cut riser section?


not sure, it's on the cut riser, but not sure if it is sealed and clamped on

quote:

Is there a valve above the tophat that is pushing the flow back out of the grommet?


not sure
Posted by LSU Fan SLU Grad
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2006
4893 posts
Posted on 6/3/10 at 10:29 pm to
Somebody please explain why the pipe appears to look exploded on Enterprise ROV 2. Appears to be leaking heavily. Haven't seen that shot before.

ETA: Looks like it could be part of the top hat but it's just covered in so much oil. Sorry, just getting back to this and need a quick update.
This post was edited on 6/3/10 at 10:31 pm
Posted by pochejp
Gonzales, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2007
8110 posts
Posted on 6/3/10 at 10:30 pm to
Redstick - would it be possible for them to use the two inlet/outlets they used for the mudd pumping into the well to suck or pump some oil out to help relieve some pressure to the top?
Posted by TexTiga
SugarLand , Tx
Member since Oct 2007
2549 posts
Posted on 6/3/10 at 10:32 pm to
Anyone know what that is that the q4000 ROV1 is monitoring ?
Posted by Sam Waterston
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
2015 posts
Posted on 6/3/10 at 10:32 pm to
enterprise rov 2 is o the opposite side and a little above skandi 2, I think that is why it looks that way, my guess would also be that it isn't seated right
Posted by Sam Waterston
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
2015 posts
Posted on 6/3/10 at 10:33 pm to
the riser
Posted by Funreaux
United States
Member since Jun 2007
7370 posts
Posted on 6/3/10 at 10:34 pm to
Government staffer here and we're trying to find out what the hell is currently going on.. BP isnt saying a damn thing, and all their press reps have called it a night. It's a shame that CNN is the best resource we've got currently for information on the situation.

Anyone in UCG or involved with the Coast Guard?

Posted by Sofa King Crimson
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2008
4135 posts
Posted on 6/3/10 at 10:34 pm to
Coast Guard just released this...

CONTAINMENT CAP IS ATTACHED TO DAMAGED BP WELL - U.S. COAST GUARD STATEMENT

just FYGI
Posted by MoreOrLes
Member since Nov 2008
19472 posts
Posted on 6/3/10 at 10:39 pm to
Im assuming the riser is either not connected to the containment cap or the suction has not started. The flow has not decreased one iota.
Posted by Spankum
The Sip
Member since Jan 2007
62260 posts
Posted on 6/3/10 at 10:39 pm to
quote:

Ok so this is one of my thoughts as well. the gas came up and was brought the gas into the intake of the diesel engines which would explain why some accounts say one of the engines was revving wildly, this then caused the first explosion.


not likely....I have had some old timers tell me that diesel engines will "run away" when gas is present, but my company frequently runs diesel engines in that environment and I have never seen it happen in over 20 years....lots of engines died out, but none have run away...
Posted by Sofa King Crimson
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2008
4135 posts
Posted on 6/3/10 at 10:41 pm to
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MoreOrLes


Agree. I think it's in position, but they haven't begun doing anything w/ it yet.
Posted by CBLSU316
Far Right of Left
Member since Jun 2008
11429 posts
Posted on 6/3/10 at 10:43 pm to
quote:

not likely....I have had some old timers tell me that diesel engines will "run away" when gas is present, but my company frequently runs diesel engines in that environment and I have never seen it happen in over 20 years....lots of engines died out, but none have run away...


Just a theory me and my dad were talking about. He has is a veteran on land rigs with a little experience offshore. I worked on his rigs in college during summers, holidays and weekends so i have a little knowledge of what is going on. When i say i have a little knowledge i mean it.........lots of you guys seem very knowledgeable about the situation.
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
16560 posts
Posted on 6/3/10 at 10:44 pm to
quote:

Redstick - would it be possible for them to use the two inlet/outlets they used for the mudd pumping into the well to suck or pump some oil out to help relieve some pressure to the top?


this is their plan, its gonna take them a little while to get it set up though
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
21659 posts
Posted on 6/3/10 at 10:48 pm to
the BP media liaison team went home for the night. unfricking believable.
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