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re: Your used car is about to be worth tons more
Posted on 4/30/26 at 8:40 am to RobertFootball
Posted on 4/30/26 at 8:40 am to RobertFootball
If I told you the world was flat would you believe me?
Posted on 4/30/26 at 8:43 am to LSUfan4444
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Well, because no such law exists for starters.
Well, except that it does.
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Section 24220 of the 2021 Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, signed under President Biden with broad bipartisan support, requires the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration to mandate passive impaired driving prevention technology in all new passenger vehicles. That mandate survived into the current administration when President Trump signed the Consolidated Appropriations Act on February 3, 2026, preserving the funding and the legal requirement. The technology in question is not a breathalyzer. It is infrared cameras mounted on steering columns and A-pillars, continuously reading your eye movements, pupil size, head position, and behavioral signals to assess whether you are alert and sober enough to operate the vehicle. If the system decides you are not, it can prevent the car from starting or, in more advanced implementations, limit operation mid-drive.
The technology isn't ready so implementation of the law has been pushed back, but the law does in fact exist (it's just not being enforced... yet).
I get what they are trying to achieve here (fewer accidents and better accountability), but to me the government mandating of this gets into 4th Amendment violation territory. The idea is that the government has room to do this because of public roadways, but it leaves no room for private vehicles being operated solely on private property (where the government has absolutely no legal authority to do such monitoring).
Posted on 4/30/26 at 8:46 am to RobertFootball
I’m not for any kind of law that enables things to spy on me, BUT, if this happens and makes the roads safer for everyone, my insurance rates will go down, right? Right?? Just like they have progressively gotten lower with inventions like airbags and cameras and precollision detection and radar adaptive cruise….
Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:01 am to Speedoj
my Chrysler 2023 , randomly shouts out put your hands back on the steering wheel, when I have both hands on the wheel located at 10 and 2. At 75 mph in traffic this is far more distracting and dangerous than acceptable.
I can probably take it back to the dealer to examine the programing for a 850 dollar fee.
I can probably take it back to the dealer to examine the programing for a 850 dollar fee.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:03 am to RobertFootball
My 2015 4Runner laughs in Japanese


Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:04 am to RFK
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Why would anyone be against this? If this protects society overall we should all be for it.
You’d rather be safe than free
Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:07 am to RFK
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Why would anyone be against this? If this protects society overall we should all be for it.
Probably trolling but...
This doesn't make us safer... It makes it easier for "authorities" to monitor/control us...
Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:08 am to Chemcorp158
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It included a statute requiring new cars to have driver-monitoring systems designed to detect impaired drivers
We recently bought a Lexus that has this, it is the worst. BUT, it doesn't have the ridiculous auto shutoff thing.
But the monitoring system watches your face and sounds an alert if you look to the side for longer than a second or two, I hate it.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:11 am to RobertFootball
My car says “take a break” after like an hour of driving. Ridiculous but I just ignore it.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:11 am to RobertFootball
It sucks when clickbait news articles have become so common that people are naturally adapting to think similarly.
Instead of referencing this law that doesn’t exist in your title, you dangle the hook that used cars will be more valuable. That’s a huge leap from the subject at hand.
Instead of referencing this law that doesn’t exist in your title, you dangle the hook that used cars will be more valuable. That’s a huge leap from the subject at hand.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:14 am to RFK
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Why would anyone be against this? If this protects society overall we should all be for it.
Ghey.
And because Frick you thats why
Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:23 am to RobertFootball
This has been covered extenstively the past week after Youtuber posted a viral video about it.
Loyal Moses - YT
Anna Luna posted about it yesterday.
Anna Luna - X post
These "safety" groups keep pushing more and more because they have to in order to justify their existence. The benefit is continuing diminishing returns yet substantial increase in cost & maintenance and continuing erosion of privacy and control.
Loyal Moses - YT
Anna Luna posted about it yesterday.
Anna Luna - X post
These "safety" groups keep pushing more and more because they have to in order to justify their existence. The benefit is continuing diminishing returns yet substantial increase in cost & maintenance and continuing erosion of privacy and control.
This post was edited on 4/30/26 at 9:25 am
Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:24 am to RFK
Have you had this mental condition long?
You should check into a mental facility before you hurt someone.
You should check into a mental facility before you hurt someone.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:25 am to RFK
Just wait until the system locks someone out who is trying to escape danger, and their pupils are dilated due to the fear and anxiety.
"Sorry, Mr Ford Owner...we cannot let you operate your vehicle right now as we detect some changes in your stress level. Please deal with the (homicidal killer / encroaching flood / tornado / accident involving your family) the best way you can. Maybe call a ride share. We apologize for the inconvenience."
Yeah, I get that's a crazy scenario, but you can see where this would go, right? I'll say this again because it's appropriate here: why do liberal leaning thinkers reach a conclusion they like and stop there? Because it's obvious you haven't thought this through.
"Sorry, Mr Ford Owner...we cannot let you operate your vehicle right now as we detect some changes in your stress level. Please deal with the (homicidal killer / encroaching flood / tornado / accident involving your family) the best way you can. Maybe call a ride share. We apologize for the inconvenience."
Yeah, I get that's a crazy scenario, but you can see where this would go, right? I'll say this again because it's appropriate here: why do liberal leaning thinkers reach a conclusion they like and stop there? Because it's obvious you haven't thought this through.
This post was edited on 4/30/26 at 9:26 am
Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:29 am to Chemcorp158
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It included a statute requiring new cars to have driver-monitoring systems designed to detect impaired drivers
Lots of people are gonna be mad that they can't consume THC and drive a car under the influence.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:29 am to RFK
Report on Bannon a couple of days ago, failure rate of this technology is approaching 80%. That means it will affect a lot of people who are not impaired, and will strand them.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:30 am to fightin tigers
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A lot of cars already have this.
Yes, my '24 F150 constantly tells me to keep my hands on the wheel when driving long, straight routes like interstate driving. If I don't shake the steering wheel eventually it will alert me that a "driver reset suggested" (or something similar) with a coffee cup emoji. I really hate that "feature".
This post was edited on 4/30/26 at 9:31 am
Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:31 am to RobertFootball
The only driver monitoring I'd be ok with is if the driver is playing on their phone while driving, the car immediately explodes.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:35 am to TheDeathValley
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Pretty sure a senator's daughter was ran over in a driveway which is why he wrote the bill.
They’re supposed to serve the constituents not themselves
Posted on 4/30/26 at 9:37 am to RobertFootball
Several threads on this already, including one of mine. No more new cars for me.
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