re: You think you own that tractor, car, or book you bought? Nope. You licensed it.

Posted by Jmcc64

alabama

Member since Apr 2021

2197 posts

Posted on 11/19/24 at 12:47 pm to Aguga

Non portable software is another pet peeve. Current computer dies? Too bad, and Oh, you'll need to pay us another fee for the new computer to run it.
(admittedly, the company I'm thinking about has changed this policy, but the older versions are still a problem)

Posted by samson73103

Krypton

Member since Nov 2008

9307 posts

Posted on 11/19/24 at 12:47 pm to SlowFlowPro

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Well cars/trucks last longer and are more reliable than ever before.

bullshite

I have a bulldozer that is 35-40 yrs old and still pushes dirt as well as it did the day it rolled off the assembly line at Caterpillar. No way one of these new ones will still be operational in 2060. Also have a mid 80s Chevrolet truck that I just replaced the engine, block and all, for less than a typical service call to the dealership on a current model. I grant you the new ones have all the bells and whistles but longevity isn't what it used to be. We live in a throwaway society with virtually no interchangeable parts.

Posted by WHS

walker LA.

Member since Feb 2006

3506 posts

Posted on 11/19/24 at 12:48 pm to cssamerican

I only use Kubota. I have never liked the green tractors

Posted by WillFerrellisking

Member since Jun 2019

2875 posts

Posted on 11/19/24 at 12:55 pm to Steadyhands

I bought 2nd hand on a decent deal back before Covid. Tractor is actually a lil too small for what I need it for and when I buy again it will NOT be JD!

Posted by GumboPot

Member since Mar 2009

140573 posts

Posted on 11/19/24 at 1:04 pm to WHS

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I only use Kubota. I have never liked the green tractors

Are Kubotas easier to service and repair yourself?

Posted by lostinbr

Baton Rouge, LA

Member since Oct 2017

12849 posts

Posted on 11/19/24 at 1:22 pm to samson73103

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Also have a mid 80s Chevrolet truck that I just replaced the engine, block and all, for less than a typical service call to the dealership on a current model.

A “typical service call” is.. what, an oil change? You’re telling me you replaced an engine for less than the cost of an oil change? I’m not sure how that’s possible for any truck unless you got the engine out of a junker for free and did the work yourself (in which case it’s an incredibly disingenuous comparison).

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I grant you the new ones have all the bells and whistles but longevity isn't what it used to be.

Vehicles are definitely more difficult to work on today, but they do last longer than they did 40-50 years ago. It’s not really debatable.. there’s a ton of data out there to support this.

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Posted by Limitlesstigers

Lafayette

Member since Nov 2019

3803 posts

Posted on 11/19/24 at 1:28 pm to crazyLSUstudent

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Lina Khan (FTC chairwoman) has been a strong proponent of right to repair

Lina Khan is the only economic literate person in the Biden administration.

Right to repair isn't really an issue the left owns though, most legislature on the issue has come from Republican governors.

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Posted by crazyLSUstudent

391 miles away from Tiger Stadium

Member since Mar 2012

6133 posts

Posted on 11/19/24 at 1:40 pm to Limitlesstigers

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Lina Khan is the only economic literate person in the Biden administration.

Yeah it’s really unfortunate she will not be retained. FTC has actually been accomplishing things under her leadership.

Posted by WHS

walker LA.

Member since Feb 2006

3506 posts

Posted on 11/19/24 at 1:42 pm to GumboPot

Mine are but I only have small tractors compared to the guy in the video.

Posted by kywildcatfanone

Wildcat Country!

Member since Oct 2012

139481 posts

Posted on 11/19/24 at 1:50 pm to lostinbr

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but they do last longer than they did 40-50 years ago. It’s not really debatable

It's very debatable. I don't think most cars last very long anymore by design.

Posted by sidewalkside

rent free in yo head

Member since Sep 2021

4613 posts

Posted on 11/19/24 at 2:25 pm to cssamerican

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Just curious why are farmers still buying John Deere? Why not go with another company that doesn’t do this?

And this is called the power of marketing and branding.

Posted by Penrod

Member since Jan 2011

55587 posts

Posted on 11/19/24 at 3:59 pm to highcotton2

The only way you should argue harvesting with…

quote:
highcotton2

…is if you are highcotton1

Posted by samson73103

Krypton

Member since Nov 2008

9307 posts

Posted on 11/19/24 at 8:29 pm to lostinbr

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A typical service call” is.. what, an oil change? You’re telling me you replaced an engine for less than the cost of an oil change?

I replaced the whole engine in the old truck for a fraction of what an in frame would cost at the dealer.

Posted by lostinbr

Baton Rouge, LA

Member since Oct 2017

12849 posts

Posted on 11/19/24 at 8:33 pm to samson73103

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I replaced the whole engine in the old truck for a fraction of what an in frame would cost at the dealer.

OK. Who did the work?

Posted by samson73103

Krypton

Member since Nov 2008

9307 posts

Posted on 11/19/24 at 8:45 pm to lostinbr

Local mechanic

Posted by lostinbr

Baton Rouge, LA

Member since Oct 2017

12849 posts

Posted on 11/19/24 at 10:25 pm to kywildcatfanone

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It's very debatable. I don't think most cars last very long anymore by design.

The average age of cars on the road today is more than double what it was in 1970. This, despite the fact that the number of vehicles in operation has also more than doubled (due to population growth presumably) which should cause the average age to trend lower over time as more cars hit the road.

It’s not at all uncommon to get 150-200k miles out of a car nowadays without needing an engine or transmission. Rust is not nearly as much of a problem as it was with vehicles in the ‘70s and ‘80s. There’s definitely more little shite that can break on new cars, and they’re definitely more difficult to work on as I said, but they stay on the road longer.