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re: You think you own that tractor, car, or book you bought? Nope. You licensed it.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:36 am to Carson123987
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:36 am to Carson123987
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You can't buy shite without a subscription or license now
Its agrevating as frick. Can't do anything without making a new login and all this stupid shite.
Good thing is you don't actually NEED all of it. Ive been on the warpath. I ain't gonna do it, and theres other options out there to skirt the bullshite sometimes.
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Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:44 am to SlowFlowPro
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The better products are the issue. Even the video starts with how much better the new tractors are than the old ones.
I will say, in defense of the manufacturers, the companies do have some blame in all of this as so often they have outsourced training and development to these suppliers and software providers.
I see it all the time in our space, people don’t learn the concepts and the fundamentals of the job, they learn the buttons and the macros to write to operate the software. That means that people don’t know the underlying fundamentals and people don’t know how to make a used tractor that is entirely mechanical work profitably well.
Can it be as profitable as these new era hot shot tractors? Probably not, but if the new tractor is always in the shop bc it’s a damn lease or the equivalent of a Spotify subscription, well shite the mechanical ones look pretty enticing, but these buyers have lost all leverage bc they don’t know the fundamentals of their trade well enough anymore to be able to operate without the software.
I still think it’s kind of bullshite and too much capture for the suppliers to be able to use that as justification for making shitty products, but everyone absolutely has blame to go around in this situation.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:50 am to kywildcatfanone
Please note, this is an inflation driver especially in insurance rates.
AND, what happens if the company introduces ESG principles like the banks did... they can just lock you out of your subscriptions and you will not be able to do repairs, buy parts.
AND, what happens if the company introduces ESG principles like the banks did... they can just lock you out of your subscriptions and you will not be able to do repairs, buy parts.
This post was edited on 11/19/24 at 9:52 am
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:50 am to brass2mouth
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I actually thought this was covered years ago and addressed. Wasn’t there a case saying essentially people have the right to fix their vehicles a few years back?
You may be thinking about Magnuson Moss. Magnuson Moss gives you the right to repair and they cannot deny warranty. The REPAIR act stuff is to get data and tools shared from the OEM so that individuals or independent shops can fix the more complex stuff that has been shoehorned into all the newer vehicles, equipment, etc.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 10:01 am to brass2mouth
TELL ME ABOUT IT. I need Adobe Pro but instead of buying, $16 a month. Jerks. Main reason I don't get Lightroom. I refuse to get Lightroom on a subscription.
This post was edited on 11/24/24 at 10:45 am
Posted on 11/19/24 at 10:09 am to Carson123987
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It's one of the biggest issues with society today. Companies want you to own NOTHING. You can't buy shite without a subscription or license now.
Yep, every car company does this as well. My wife has a 2023 Honda CRV Hybrid, and it prompts her everytime she starts it now to "upgrade to get online services). They were free for the first year, and I haven't found a way to make it stop prompting, so I'm guessing it will prompt for the next 20 years we start it.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 10:09 am to TheSadvocate
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Isn’t BMW trying to make shite like heated seats a subscription service or some shite
Yep, they all are for whatever they can think to turn into a subscription.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 10:27 am to kywildcatfanone
The one that is really pissing me off is software. There are very few developers that offer perpetual licenses any more so you have to pay for an annual subscription that costs the same as the perpetual license use to.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 10:27 am to kywildcatfanone
This shite is why I hate Apple. They work hard to create a cult like following and then herd the sheep for profits. Dumb people too trapped to see the fences penning them in.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 10:38 am to grizzlylongcut
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I’m a sales rep for a diesel water pump company, most of our fleet is starting to come with Tier IV engines (DEF) 95% of the issues those pieces of equipment have is directly related to the DEF system.
As SFP says, thanks Obama.
Delete them
Posted on 11/19/24 at 10:42 am to BigBinBR
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You may be thinking about Magnuson Moss. Magnuson Moss gives you the right to repair and they cannot deny warranty. The REPAIR act stuff is to get data and tools shared from the OEM so that individuals or independent shops can fix the more complex stuff that has been shoehorned into all the newer vehicles, equipment, etc.
I wonder at what point will China come up with replacement computers that can be accessed by the owner.
Kinda like deleting a truck. Im sure it would be illegal in some states tho.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 10:43 am to POTUS2024
quote:Disagree. The CFPB is a leviathan of administrative overreach. It’s supposed to be limited to financial services and products, but spreads its tentacles into every area of commerce. It rules by enforcement instead of clear rules—creating uncertainty and costs in the market. Moreover, even in the financial space, the CFPB is unconstitutional and should be abolished.
CFPB is the quick and easy hammer for this issue.
Proper jurisdiction lies with the FTC, who should create clear rules for vendors in selling their products.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 11:44 am to NolaLovingClemsonFan
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Capitalism is supposed to lead to better products and customer experiences, not the opposite
We need a competitive tractor or car company that sells replacement parts for the DIYer. They would sell a shite ton and force the other manufacturers to change.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 11:46 am to kywildcatfanone
How was the bill 5,000 if the part was 160 and labor 300? What was the other 4500 dollars for? It didn’t say
But yea dealerships rape you in the service dept. I hate the new tractors I’d rather buy a 40 year old one that’s been rebuilt
But yea dealerships rape you in the service dept. I hate the new tractors I’d rather buy a 40 year old one that’s been rebuilt
Posted on 11/19/24 at 11:51 am to GumboPot
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We need a competitive tractor or car company that sells replacement parts for the DIYer. They would sell a shite ton and force the other manufacturers to change.
I fear they'd be murdered before ever reaching the point of meaningful change
Posted on 11/19/24 at 11:53 am to WillFerrellisking
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know this video wasn’t just about John Deere but I wanted to express how much I HATE John Deere.
7 weeks I waited for them to diagnose a problem with my lil tractor and fix it. They are scum of the earth and will never buy another product from them!
This thread and issue presented is the exact reason I avoided John Deere. They may have the market cornered in the south for the largest of tractors, but if you're looking for small to medium sized, avoid JD. Their small/medium tractors are an inferior product to many other brands, anyway.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 11:56 am to TheSadvocate
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Isn’t BMW trying to make shite like heated seats a subscription service or some shite
I was going to change my son’s battery on his X2 until I found out how complicated BMW makes something as simple as replacing a battery difficult. It ended up costing almost $700 at the local Firestone to do it. I would have done it myself but I don’t have the computer hardware and to register the new battery.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 12:00 pm to kywildcatfanone
Wow. Thanks for posting this – seriously. This should be sent to every congressman and every state representative across the nation. Clearly a violation of our antitrust laws. However, the antitrust laws should be updated to deal with new technology.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 12:24 pm to MMauler
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Wow. Thanks for posting this – seriously.
I thought it was worth a watch.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 12:35 pm to kywildcatfanone
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Was expecting more OT comments on her, she's very pretty.
It’s gotten soft around here.
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