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re: You may no longer be able to “taste the rainbow” in California

Posted on 3/17/23 at 7:56 am to
Posted by ZZTIGERS
Member since Dec 2007
17118 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 7:56 am to
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They put red dye in Salmon to make it look more pink. Do you think that's OK or maybe it shouldn't be allowed.

There’s always alternatives. I can assure you there’s places to get salmon as natural as when they came out of the water. I’m not arguing for these additives, but an entire economy can, does and will exist with all natural fish, seafood, meat, vegetables, etc…
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52926 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 7:56 am to
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Hell must’ve frozen over because I actually agree with California for once.


You don't need government to tell you what is and isn't good for you. That's what your brain is for.

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I’d love to see the the personal holdings of big food execs and see how many pharmaceuticals they hold because I’m pretty sure our food is engineered to get us on long-term prescription medication.



If you can't figure out that candy and coke isn't good for you, and you need big government to make those decisions for you, then maybe you aren't capable of making intelligent decisions when voting.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18476 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 7:57 am to
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The key is to produce better decision makers, not have the government make decisions for you.


I agree to an extent, but most hard working, educated Americans (and the lazy dumb ones obviously) don’t have the time to keep up with the random shite companies decide to throw into food. Candies and cookies are one thing; but when even fresh produce and meats have ridiculous additives, antibiotics, or other potentially harmful chemicals, it’s a problem that needs regulation.
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
22274 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 7:57 am to
Alcohol is bad for you. Is CA gonna ban wineries?
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
24084 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 7:59 am to
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titanium dioxide


This one is a reach. If you look at the MSDS for it, the only hazard is for inhalation. The oral toxicity is over 10,000 mg/kg for both acute and chronic.

titanium dioxide MSDS
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
140462 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 7:59 am to
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If it pisses off both fatties and fàgs, then it's good by me


Now you'll be safe from your own choices. We know you don
t do illegal substances.
oh look... got me a two for one
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96042 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 7:59 am to
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The lack of individual thought from some of you is staggering.

If you don't want something....DON'T CONSUME IT. Why do you need government to hold your hand?


You keep singling people out in this thread when most people are talking on a macro level and not about their personal decision making.

And if you haven't looked around lately, the entire country is fat as frick.

I'm not sure where I personally land on this, but I can definitely see an argument for banning harmful things in all types of food, staple foods included.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55884 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 7:59 am to
OT: this inflation is ridiculous. hard working people can't make ends meet.

also OT: if you don't want (often completely unnecessary) cancer causing chemicals in your food, just spend some way more money and do some research. or just buy a farm and grow it yourself.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52926 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 7:59 am to
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The problem is when there are chemicals known to cause cancer and they are unavoidable sometimes.



You do know that everything causes cancer, right? That big ball of fire in the sky causes cancer. The soil our food comes from, contains arsenic. The food you grill, contains carcinogens. Blanketly stating, "they should ban x because it has ingredients known to cause cancer" is simple minded thinking. There are safe levels of "things that cause cancer" that don't give you cancer. This is food babe type hysteria.

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I'm not for more Government either


ok

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but I also know some things should not be allowed in a civilized first world country.



Posted by LCA131
Home of the Fake Sig lines
Member since Feb 2008
72623 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 7:59 am to
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Alcohol is bad for you. Is CA gonna ban wineries?


You shut your whore mouth!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261780 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 7:59 am to
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but most hard working, educated Americans (and the lazy dumb ones obviously) don’t have the time to keep up with the random shite companies decide to throw into food.


I disagree, unless youre eating prepared foods or eating out all the time.

Everyone should know there's dye in many candies and these dyes aren't the best for you. We learned it as children.
Posted by footswitch
New Market
Member since Apr 2015
3972 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 8:00 am to
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harmful to DNA


But you can cut your dick off or kill unborns with their encouragement.
Gotcha
Posted by ZZTIGERS
Member since Dec 2007
17118 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 8:02 am to
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Is CA gonna ban wineries?

Their Governor is an effete wine merchant, as Tim Dillon would say. Plus, his wineries just benefited from the bailout of SVB. Wineries aren’t going anywhere.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52926 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 8:02 am to
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also OT: if you don't want (often completely unnecessary) cancer causing chemicals in your food, just spend some way more money and do some research. or just buy a farm and grow it yourself.




Research doesn't cost anything. It's pretty funny that you think being educated is such a chore.

Also, farmer's markets are much cheaper than grocery stores. Not sure where you're shopping.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
18335 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 8:03 am to
The issue with absolute stances on regulation/deregulation is that you end up in a silly place when you take either one to its logical conclusion. There had to be some nuance, and not allowing corporations to put harmful fillers in everyday foods is one I'm willing to accept.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96042 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 8:04 am to
I think the main problem with the bill is it's targeting candy. I think most people understand candy is bad for you.

They should focus on staple foods, and make sure harmful additives aren't added to those.
Posted by Gorilla Ball
Member since Feb 2006
11803 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 8:05 am to
It’s tobacco or nicotine addictive?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52926 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 8:05 am to
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not allowing corporations to put harmful fillers in everyday foods is one I'm willing to accept.




What about safe amounts? Because that's what this bill is attacking.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261780 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 8:06 am to
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. I think most people understand candy is bad for you.


Evidently not Its hard to believe, but some people need gubment to tell them.

But remember, most legislation is written by lobbyists and special interest. Probably competitors.
This post was edited on 3/17/23 at 8:08 am
Posted by BillyGibbons
St. Somewhere
Member since Mar 2020
650 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 8:09 am to
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You don't need government to tell you what is and isn't good for you. That's what your brain is for.


Never said I did. I don’t eat junk food because I’m intelligent and understand basic nutrition and it’s effects on long-term health. That being said, I’m not comfortable with major corporations poisoning the people who don’t understand those things. If not banning at least stern warnings like cigarettes got.

Something like this maybe…

Warning: long term use or consumption of this product may lead to heart disease, type II diabetes, obesity, and cancer
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