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re: You are wealthy, explain to me why you have to bribe and cheat to get into college?
Posted on 3/13/19 at 12:56 pm to winkchance
Posted on 3/13/19 at 12:56 pm to winkchance
quote:I guess being Aunt Becky on Full House doesn’t come with the prestige and clout we all assumed
explain to me why you have to bribe and cheat to get into college?
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Posted on 3/13/19 at 12:57 pm to CP3LSU25
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don't care if the piece of paper says Yale, Harvard or Stanford on it, you still have to work. Yeah you may have more opportunities, but the boss still expects you to bust your arse. I feel pretty confident that an ivy league school degree doesn't match up with an SEC, Big 12 or Sunbelt degree when the person holding that "lesser" degree out hustles or out thinks the ivy league degree they were given. Management wants results not pedigrees. I bet the big tech companies and even Wall Street are full of people with degrees from piss ant little schools.
How many kids from the SEC get a shot at Goldman Sachs fresh out of undergrad?
Posted on 3/13/19 at 1:16 pm to Pesticide
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I don't care if the piece of paper says Yale, Harvard or Stanford on it, you still have to work. Yeah you may have more opportunities, but the boss still expects you to bust your arse. I feel pretty confident that an ivy league school degree doesn't match up with an SEC, Big 12 or Sunbelt degree when the person holding that "lesser" degree out hustles or out thinks the ivy league degree they were given. Management wants results not pedigrees. I bet the big tech companies and even Wall Street are full of people with degrees from piss ant little schools.
I get what your are saying and don't necessarily disagree in general, but when you get to the cream, I mean the real upper echelon, Having that Ivy league degree, (Pedigree) if you will gets you into the country club that's exclusive to them. You need to think bigger than just the working world. In that club doors are open to you that the rest of the world doesn't even know about much less have a chance to walk through.
This post was edited on 3/13/19 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 3/13/19 at 1:18 pm to Snipe
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You need to think bigger than just the working world. In that club doors are open to you that the rest of the world doesn't even know about much less have a chance to walk through.
Sounds like a matter of access not superior intelligence.
Posted on 3/13/19 at 1:21 pm to winkchance
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Here is $50,000 extra dollars to repave the parking lot
$50K would not garner interest. Try a $5 to $10 million dollar building donation at the elite schools.
Posted on 3/13/19 at 1:35 pm to ellishughtiger
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Rich kids Goto private schools and everyone else goes to public universities. It’s been going on for years. Some people need to just mind their own business.
Common myth, at Harvard less than 20% of the students are paying anywhere close to full tuition, the rest are receiving financial aid, 20% of the students pay nothing to attend. The statistics are similar at other Ivy League schools, their endowments are so large they could operate the college and offer free tuition to all students. Most of the schools involved in this scandal have endowment over 20 billion dollars, and no longer need donor money in exchange for admission. That is what created this bribery scheme, these people needed a different path to buy admission for their kids.
Posted on 3/13/19 at 1:49 pm to winkchance
Because the elite have slowly learned they don't have to follow the rules.
Posted on 3/13/19 at 1:53 pm to winkchance
Pure greed
Posted on 3/13/19 at 1:53 pm to Pesticide
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How many ivy league kids kept that job?they still have to work and produce to keep it.
That may be true for the "regular" kids, but for those with the right last name and pedigree, it's not really true. Some of it is nepotism, but not always, and a lot of those kids are brought into executive level positions straight out of college and put in golden handcuffs. The wealthy have protected the wealthy since the dawn of time, despite what our idealistic views on the world try to teach us.
Posted on 3/13/19 at 2:14 pm to The Spleen
Exactly. I'll add there are jobs like ones on Wall Street that require a Harvard degree. So they bribe to get their kids in. And keep the cycle going. Liberal elites hate diversity.
Posted on 3/13/19 at 4:36 pm to winkchance
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This whole charade looks like too much sugar for a dime. My kid is dumb, but I want them to go to Yale. Here is $50,000 extra dollars to repave the parking lot. Why all this nonsense about lying about sports and having people take ACTs for you
Pay your fees and get your B’s. Guess some rich folk are learning this is a two lane street.
Posted on 3/13/19 at 4:45 pm to Pesticide
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How many ivy league kids kept that job?they still have to work and produce to keep it.
A lot. There are a lot of really smart and driven people at Ivy League schools. Including rich kids.
Posted on 3/13/19 at 5:08 pm to winkchance
I know this. If I was one of the kids, I would be completely embarrassed.
What I don't understand is.. Wealthy or not, why would you not want your kids to go to where ever they could get in on their own? Oh so they really want to go to Yale? Well if you have the grades, the extracurricular resume, etc that it takes to be 1 of the 7% of the people to get accepted every year. Otherwise, you will be just like the rest of the 93% of the people who didn't get in.
Let your kid go to whatever schools they applied to that accepted them.
If I was the kid, I'd rather have the $150k in my bank account that was spent to help me get into the school that is my first choice than attend that school that my parents had to bribe people to get me into.
I understand parents want to give their kids everything they want, but they have to realize that doesn't help them in the long run. That there could one day be a time when they are not there to help their kids get whatever they want.. And then their kids will have no idea what to do.
The mindset by the parents to do whatever it takes to get their kids into certain schools blows my mind.
What I don't understand is.. Wealthy or not, why would you not want your kids to go to where ever they could get in on their own? Oh so they really want to go to Yale? Well if you have the grades, the extracurricular resume, etc that it takes to be 1 of the 7% of the people to get accepted every year. Otherwise, you will be just like the rest of the 93% of the people who didn't get in.
Let your kid go to whatever schools they applied to that accepted them.
If I was the kid, I'd rather have the $150k in my bank account that was spent to help me get into the school that is my first choice than attend that school that my parents had to bribe people to get me into.
I understand parents want to give their kids everything they want, but they have to realize that doesn't help them in the long run. That there could one day be a time when they are not there to help their kids get whatever they want.. And then their kids will have no idea what to do.
The mindset by the parents to do whatever it takes to get their kids into certain schools blows my mind.
Posted on 3/13/19 at 5:20 pm to Pesticide
Tech companies are recruiting from India Tech.
Posted on 3/13/19 at 5:27 pm to OweO
In the case of a lot of these schools, it is being part of the “right crowd” by going to certain universities.
Ivy schools have massive inroads into the corridors of power.
USC is probably the most important film school between location and a number of influential grads.
Fun fact - Rian Johnson of Last Jedi infamy is a grad of their film school, which probably helps explain why he is still working after massively fricking up a multi billion dollar franchise with one film.
Ivy schools have massive inroads into the corridors of power.
USC is probably the most important film school between location and a number of influential grads.
Fun fact - Rian Johnson of Last Jedi infamy is a grad of their film school, which probably helps explain why he is still working after massively fricking up a multi billion dollar franchise with one film.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 9:21 am to DeafJam73
This is my pint exactly. It is no shock that rich people pay money to schools and they make sure their kid gets in. But these schemes were incredibly involved with high school coaches changing transcripts and college coaches accepting people under the guise of sports scholarships and people being paid to change scores. Everyone knows kids who got into schools because parents pulled favors or paid money, so why all this other nonsense. Are you saying Lori Loughlin could not have simply stroked a check to the school for a new wing on the library? Why make up a back story that her model daughter was on the rowing team?
Posted on 3/14/19 at 9:25 am to idlewatcher
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What idiot bribes her way into a school then says "Yea, but I dunno how much time I'll actually be at school"
She might not have even known that she got in by bribery. Who knows really?
ETA: I'm really wondering what these parents are thinking though. If your kid can't legitimately get into the school, what are the chances that they'll put in the effort to actually graduate? Or, do they plan on bribing each of their professors, too?
This post was edited on 3/14/19 at 9:27 am
Posted on 3/14/19 at 9:28 am to winkchance
They do it to maintain their status position. Doesn’t have anything to do with the outcome of the kid in college or whether they graduate. They are stupid.
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