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re: WWYD: casinos and gambling addicts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 10:47 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 9/13/19 at 10:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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so i am the first lawyer in LC to remove a page from his website for gambling markers
Gotcha
I would figure that markers have been tested before but I wasn't sure if you knew something others didn't.
I imagine it's like any contract, and unless you signed under duress, there is nothing you can do.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 10:48 am to BabyTac
I can't imagine how terrible it would be to deal with that from a spouse or parent and reading some of the responses on this thread honestly made me really sad.
Why the heck did her husband allow her to go on a girls gambling trip when he knew she had a gambling problem???
Also curious as to how she ended up that far in the hole so quickly and how that transpired.
The first time I went into a casino I played 3 hands of blackjack and lost $60 in less than 10 minutes, thought to myself "well this isnt fun... I'm going to the bar"
Why the heck did her husband allow her to go on a girls gambling trip when he knew she had a gambling problem???
Also curious as to how she ended up that far in the hole so quickly and how that transpired.
The first time I went into a casino I played 3 hands of blackjack and lost $60 in less than 10 minutes, thought to myself "well this isnt fun... I'm going to the bar"
Posted on 9/13/19 at 10:50 am to sec13rowBBseat28
quote:I know a girl who did this to her husband. She ended up having to give him an allowance, and he has to ask her every time he wants to use a credit card or buy something. Threatened divorce and taking the kids unless he agreed. It worked
I would completely cut off every access she has to money
Posted on 9/13/19 at 10:50 am to stout
oh the lawyer who owns the office i used to work out of has tried countless things to fight them, including having the local DA removed for a conflict of interest (since they get a % of the collections and are effectively the collection arm of the casinos)
yes but it's not like a normal debt, b/c they effectively include a "check" and if you can't repay that becomes a worthless check, which is a felony. so when you don't pay, they send to the DAs office who then has a whole division (funded by % collected) who tries to work out payment plans. if you don't do that, felony charges are filed.
if you can't pay, you will get a felony charge ultimately. with probation being limited to 3 years now, they're converting the leftovers to civil judgments ultimately, but they'll get that felony on your record
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I imagine it's like any contract, and unless you signed under duress, there is nothing you can do.
yes but it's not like a normal debt, b/c they effectively include a "check" and if you can't repay that becomes a worthless check, which is a felony. so when you don't pay, they send to the DAs office who then has a whole division (funded by % collected) who tries to work out payment plans. if you don't do that, felony charges are filed.
if you can't pay, you will get a felony charge ultimately. with probation being limited to 3 years now, they're converting the leftovers to civil judgments ultimately, but they'll get that felony on your record
Posted on 9/13/19 at 10:51 am to Celee04
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Also curious as to how she ended up that far in the hole so quickly and how that transpired.
People are chasing the rush. From what I understand for gambling addicts it's not about the money but rather they have something else they are trying to satisfy. To fulfill that need they are betting big hoping to hit big and get the rush. That would make it easy to get in the hole quickly.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 10:53 am to SlowFlowPro
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yes but it's not like a normal debt, b/c they effectively include a "check" and if you can't repay that becomes a worthless check, which is a felony. so when you don't pay, they send to the DAs office who then has a whole division (funded by % collected) who tries to work out payment plans. if you don't do that, felony charges are filed.
if you can't pay, you will get a felony charge ultimately. with probation being limited to 3 years now, they're converting the leftovers to civil judgments ultimately, but they'll get that felony on your record
That is smart on the casinos part. So they sell it as you are purchasing goods instead of taking on debt. Probably doing that to keep you from discharging it in bankruptcy as well.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 10:56 am to stout
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From what I understand for gambling addicts it's not about the money
Maybe not in the beginning.....but trust me.....it becomes a good bit about the money. Mostly trying to chase the money you have lost.
You just dig yourself deeper and deeper....convincing yourself that you if you just keep trying....you will win the money back. You get obsessed with it. I would bet this guy’s wife gambled non stop over the weekend and only took short breaks to eat and maybe take a nap here and there.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 10:57 am to lsunurse
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ostly trying to chase the money you have lost.
Yea that makes sense.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 10:58 am to stout
I mean, I can't really blame the husband for letting the wife go on the Lake Charles trip. It is a pretty big jump to go from losing a couple hundred dollars to $30,000. Usually, there is some sort of progression.
Also, if your gf wins money in baccarat every week, then it sounds like she needs to start playing higher stakes. Either that or she doesn't tell you about all the times that she loses. I can't tell you how many people brag to me about their winnings at the slots or the horse races when it is clear they lose way more than they win.
Also, if your gf wins money in baccarat every week, then it sounds like she needs to start playing higher stakes. Either that or she doesn't tell you about all the times that she loses. I can't tell you how many people brag to me about their winnings at the slots or the horse races when it is clear they lose way more than they win.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 11:00 am to DumpsterFire
Because it's not part of the system!
Just go read the betting threads on the msb. Not shockingly, we have a high percentage of people that come out on top every year
Just go read the betting threads on the msb. Not shockingly, we have a high percentage of people that come out on top every year
Posted on 9/13/19 at 11:01 am to SlowFlowPro
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yes but it's not like a normal debt, b/c they effectively include a "check" and if you can't repay that becomes a worthless check, which is a felony. so when you don't pay, they send to the DAs office who then has a whole division (funded by % collected) who tries to work out payment plans. if you don't do that, felony charges are filed.
So, are we imprisoning debtors now? Damn
Posted on 9/13/19 at 11:03 am to stout
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Probably doing that to keep you from discharging it in bankruptcy as well.
there are conflicting legal opinions about this for sure
Posted on 9/13/19 at 11:04 am to DumpsterFire
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then it sounds like she needs to start playing higher stakes
That line of thinking is how people wind up in the hole. Bet small and win small multiple times. Base hits over home runs.
It's easier to recover a few hundred dollars the next time around then it is a few thousand. Plus she uses martingale some which require doubling if you lose. You can get to a large bid quickly doing that.
She isn't raking in riches, nor does she need to, but she makes enough and doesn't get greedy by saying she needs to head to high stakes. In the end it's about money management.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 11:07 am to SlowFlowPro
The husband should do inventory of his wife’s stuff. Does she have expensive clothes, jewelry, electronics etc?
Sell it (besides sentimental and necessary items) to pay off the debt before she sells it to try and gamble to win the money back.
Sell it (besides sentimental and necessary items) to pay off the debt before she sells it to try and gamble to win the money back.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 11:10 am to Jones
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Because it's not part of the system!
I sense the sarcasm and I get it. Most games are designed to have an edge for the house no matter what obviously. Baccarat has the fairest odds and you can navigate it better than other games if you can manage your money and not chase or play the stupid bonus add ons some tables have.
I have played and found it boring FWIW. It's flipping a coin more or less.
This post was edited on 9/13/19 at 11:11 am
Posted on 9/13/19 at 11:10 am to stout
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Plus she uses martingale some which require doubling if you lose. You can get to a large bid quickly doing that.
Sounds like she hasn't gotten on a extended cold streak then. Failing the martingale method once will more than overwhelm all the smaller wins.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 11:14 am to DumpsterFire
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Sounds like she hasn't gotten on a extended cold streak then. Failing the martingale method once will more than overwhelm all the smaller wins.
Sure she has but she sets a stop limit and doesn't chase beyond that. Like I said, getting a few hundred back is easier than a few thousand. Often times she will only martingale with what she has already won that day. She also isn't using martingale all of the time.
LDL in Lake Charles had it hit "Banker" or whatever like 38 times in a row. No one could follow martingale on that.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 11:16 am to stout
Sounds like she is using such small amounts where she relies on the double up to recoup and it never puts her in danger
That's just someone that likes to play cards and games and sit there forever. Ie. Asians
I prefer pai gow, the other Asian game where you sit for hours for drinks and getting my card fix
That's just someone that likes to play cards and games and sit there forever. Ie. Asians
I prefer pai gow, the other Asian game where you sit for hours for drinks and getting my card fix
Posted on 9/13/19 at 11:16 am to BabyTac
If she's into sports gambling tell her to e-mail me
<<<<@gmail.com
I can set her up and will give her $500 in free play
<<<<@gmail.com
I can set her up and will give her $500 in free play
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