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re: WSJ: String of Firms That Imploded Have Something in Common: Ernst & Young Audited Them

Posted on 10/16/20 at 5:39 pm to
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
16890 posts
Posted on 10/16/20 at 5:39 pm to
Quality in everything we poo.

I think that's how the old slogan used to go...
This post was edited on 10/16/20 at 5:40 pm
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
22677 posts
Posted on 10/16/20 at 5:44 pm to
Most Big 4 audits are shite anyways
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
22677 posts
Posted on 10/16/20 at 5:45 pm to
Kpmg’s new training facility is elite. It won’t help the core problem that big 4 auditing faces though.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26417 posts
Posted on 10/16/20 at 6:03 pm to
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They have a trash training program as compared to the other 3. Deloitte takes the cake with the Dallas hub.


The Deloitte center outside Dallas is an insanely luxurious white collar Branch Dravidian compound. I think EY’s is pretty pimp too.
This post was edited on 10/16/20 at 6:05 pm
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
20484 posts
Posted on 10/16/20 at 6:04 pm to
This isn't new.

When I was in college (and the Big Four were then the Big Eight before shrinking to the Big Six and Arthur Andersen disappearing totally thanks to Enron) the issue of auditors being too close to their clients was a problem then.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
20484 posts
Posted on 10/16/20 at 6:06 pm to
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Shouldn’t it be the opposite? If I owned a shady company, I’d hire the auditor that provided the least resistance.



And that's what you get with the lowest rate.
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
4469 posts
Posted on 10/16/20 at 6:11 pm to
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And that's what you get with the lowest rate


There’s usually a premium attached to looking the other way.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
34665 posts
Posted on 10/16/20 at 6:34 pm to
I don't know anything about EY, but we use KPMG and I have to work very closely with them on out audit every year. Those people are damned near rapey with the detail and scope of their audit. The subsidiary I am with is about 20 billion in annual revenue, and I'm pretty sure if someone put in a fraudulent PO for a single roll of toilet paper for 35 cents they would find it and put the fear of God into our board over it.
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
15101 posts
Posted on 10/16/20 at 6:36 pm to
Every EY auditor I’ve ever met was a kid fresh out of school with zero experience
Posted by hollowpoint
Texas
Member since Sep 2019
1039 posts
Posted on 10/16/20 at 6:47 pm to
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Posted by Larry Gooseman
Houston
Member since Mar 2014
2757 posts
Posted on 10/16/20 at 8:33 pm to
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They have a trash training program as compared to the other 3. Deloitte takes the cake with the Dallas hub. KPMG & PwC have solid training and on boarding programs.


I work at EY Consulting. Used to do KPMG consulting. Take my perspective with grain of salt because I’m not in audit.

EY onboarding process was very standardized and professional. The ongoing training is very much up to the professional to schedule and attend, no formal ongoing training that 1/3 of the practice attends at a time. I will say I learned little to nothing at KPMG National trainings, practically a 4 day party with recovery time during the trainings. The content was mostly useless.

I’d argue at this point from a training perspective EY seems to have done it right where they don’t have overhead of some unused training facility.

The talent I’ve come across at EY has been higher, but that could really just be the people I’ve been exposed to at EY as opposed to KPMG.

I like working at EY, that is all I came here to convey.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64110 posts
Posted on 10/16/20 at 8:43 pm to
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This is the so called Swamp that needs to be drained. Banking, Finance and Wall Street are crooked as frick. Hard working small money citizens don't have a chance against this type of looting.


Absolutely.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
23145 posts
Posted on 10/16/20 at 9:30 pm to
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That’s not going to be good for business



They just signed the Libyan Investment Authority contract two days ago.
Posted by Rendevoustavern
Member since May 2018
1792 posts
Posted on 10/16/20 at 9:45 pm to
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4 day part

The only party you had in assurance the entire year

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content was mostly useless.

The process is, semi, standardized anyways

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EY Consulting.

I don’t discourage an EY opportunity if it’s not assurance, that’s my only point.
Posted by mostbesttigerfanever
TD platinum member suite in TS
Member since Jan 2010
5030 posts
Posted on 10/16/20 at 9:53 pm to
The my were also FNBC’s auditor down here
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