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re: Would you ever consider declaring bankruptcy if your hospital bill was high enough?

Posted on 9/30/19 at 8:30 am to
Posted by MBclass83
Member since Oct 2010
10073 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 8:30 am to
What are the things one does to destroy a pancreas? Serious question. My SIL just got diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. That's some bad shite.
Posted by Asaul
Alabama
Member since Sep 2013
179 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 8:32 am to
What kind of part B bill runs over $600,000? Part A is where you typically see astronomically high bills and Medicare pays their portion after you meet the deductible.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
22827 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 8:33 am to
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What are the things one does to destroy a pancreas?


In his case, near constant drug and alcohol use. Never gave his body a chance to recover.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 8:40 am to
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I want to see more specifics. Reddit is notorious for people inventing elaborate stories for karma. Even if you have a lower plan, your out of pocket max would be no where near that.


A writer for Vox did an in-depth investigation into ER bills and included copies of ER bills that people sent her in her column. It's a pretty eye-opening column.

Vox

I didn't see a link, but I thought at one time her database of bills was available to see.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22616 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 8:40 am to
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Am I just sheltered? Even under out of network family plans the absolute most I would pay is 24k. What the hell are they getting for their insurance?


All they have to say is it’s not covered and it doesn’t apply to your deductible
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 8:46 am to
I think in the Reddit story, there was in issue with pre-authorization that led to some services not being covered.
Posted by rsbd
banks of the Mississippi
Member since Jan 2007
23154 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 8:49 am to
This was 17 years ago, we live and we learn. We were young and panicked, it all worked out.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
88576 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 8:50 am to
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Maybe so I don't have any first hand knowledge. But logically why would a hospital accept $120/year payment on thousands or hundreds of thousands of dollars? I just don't know why they would bother with such a small amount unless legally obligated and maybe they are in some states.


Because some money > no money.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
88064 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 8:52 am to
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This was 17 years ago, we live and we learn. We were young and panicked, it all worked out.


I understand, not meant as an insult, I probably wouldn't know anything about this if the old lady hadn't been in the business, you see a big bill, you want to do the right thing but the amount is crippling, glad it all worked out
Posted by crispyUGA
Upstate SC
Member since Feb 2011
16197 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 8:52 am to
If they were demanding it up front, then I would consider it, but it would probably be smarter to let it go to collections and work out a payment plan with the creditor if the hospital wouldn't let you setup a payment schedule.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
43851 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 8:53 am to
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My SIL just got diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. That's some bad shite.



90% of people diagnosed with this disease die within the year. Prayers for your family.

We lost my MIL to this and work with a local charity to raise money for research here at UAB. Terrible, terrible disease.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18368 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 8:56 am to
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My dad owed like 3-4K from a hospital stay


Who even thinks of filing bankruptcy over 3-4k? I think you are missing the point of this thread
Posted by Smokedawg
Finding Lennay Kekua
Member since Dec 2008
5582 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 8:59 am to
No just don’t pay it and seven years it’ll be gone
Posted by cajunandy
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2015
860 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 9:03 am to
add intentional torts to non dischargable debt.
Posted by cajunandy
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2015
860 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 9:05 am to
income taxes are dichargeable but not payroll taxes.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
135323 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 9:07 am to
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Usually easier to just negotiate a discounted payment. Walk into the business office with a prepared Bankruptcy filing. Along with all your financial information. Tell them you'll write a check for $5000 in exchange for a total release. Or, you'll file BK and they get nothing.

They'll take the $5000.


Something like this. Ignore the bill, negotiate for 5% and they will take it.
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22291 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 9:22 am to
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My dad owed like 3-4K from a hospital stay (after insurance). Hospital has him paying $89 a month until it’s paid off.

OP, was making reference to over $130K worth of medical bills, which is at a whole different level than 3-4 grand. No one in their right mind is declaring a BK over 3-4 grand worth of medical bills.
Posted by Royal
God's Country
Member since Apr 2009
1028 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 9:23 am to
Domestic support
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
88064 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 9:23 am to
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No one in their right mind


related to nurse, doh
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
52884 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 9:25 am to
Damn. Every day I wonder why doesn’t the majority (those without existing expensive chronic issues) doesn’t use HDCP/HSA if they all have it available.

Self insuring as much as possible seems critical if they can easily say they won’t cover a critical procedure.
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