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re: Would you allow you child to be put on Adderall/Vyvanse at 8-10 years of age?

Posted on 11/2/20 at 3:04 pm to
Posted by Bistineaubengal
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 11/2/20 at 3:04 pm to
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This has been my project for the last month or so, along with getting him with a personal trainer. I was thinking maybe exercise and a better diet could help


Sounds like you are looking in the right direction. Best of luck to you!

Exercise helps along with diet. Set up a good routine at home, this helps too.

For what is is worth my kid's 4th grade teacher told us my kid was just not making it and we needed to look into meds.

We didn't.

We set up a routine, quit buying the process crap and cooked more at home. My kid found some hobbies to focus on and grew out of it for the most part.

Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 11/2/20 at 3:23 pm to
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Would you allow you child to be put on Adderall


Absolutely not. As someone who was diagnosed with adhd at 11 and put on concerta, vyvance, and adderall (at different times) I’ll tell you each of those is a hindering and horrific addiction. It’s putting your child in a torturous prison in their mind.

ADHD isn’t a life altering disability. It’s just how some people are. Help them Learn to deal with it. Don’t medicate it away. It’s much much easier to medicate and pacify your child than it is to parent and nurture them.

I have absolutely no idea how meth would help dyslexia.
This post was edited on 11/2/20 at 4:26 pm
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20019 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 3:23 pm to
No way. I was an adult when I first tried it, decided to get prescribed and decided to discontinue taking it. Can’t imagine forcing such a mood altering drug on someone before they are fully developed mentally.

And I can definitely relate to not knowing how to deal with a kid at times. Of course mine aren’t the worst behaved but they are far from angels
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 3:42 pm to
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I’ve been holding out hope he will grow out of the adhd and learn to cope with the dyslexia. He isn’t making much progress and it’s pretty damn hard to feel like you’re decision boils down to not helping him reach his potential by using drugs, or make him use drugs.


I think if you use those drugs to achieve something, you're exceeding your potential, not reaching it.

Our school system has lost sight of this, but not everyone needs to be great at academia or even reading. Not everyone needs to be great at sitting still in a room and following directions all day.

I don't know what the short-term answer is. School will shame your kid with the "Cs and Ds are bad" narrative (and will come up with all sorts of weird schoolmarm crap around that narrative) until he turns 18, and then your kid can go spend his time on things he's actually good at and enjoys.

Until then, I think I'd just try to help him naturally, and help him put things in perspective. If he tends to stare out the window when he's told Y=MX+B or whatever, it's not the end of the world.
Posted by glaceau
Member since Nov 2017
70 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 3:58 pm to
I was diagnosed with dyslexia in 3rd grade. My older siblings were straight A students and I was the kid who brought home Cs. I felt stupid when it came to academics. I used to say things like “I am dumb and stupid” and my parents encouraged me not to convince myself that I was dumb.
My dad did not want to put me on medication until I was older and practically let me decide if I wanted to go on them or not when I started high school. I started on Concerta when I was a freshman in high school and I absolutely hated it. So my parents and I decided not to take it.
I was not a good student early in high school but my grades improved every year because I was learning how I learned best.
To make a long story short, I thankfully got accepted into a smaller university and by that time I knew how to work w my dyslexia and how to learn. I have a doctorate degree and define myself as successful.
Now concerning you decision, encourage your child and try not to let him get himself down. Medication does work for a lot of people but it may change his personality. Being so young I do not see the rush to start medication. It is ok to have mediocre grades growing up.
I was not diagnosed with ADHD so no personal experience with that. I do believe exercise and extracurricular activities help. especially if you can help him find something he is truly interested in.
Sorry for long post. Sorry for spelling and grammar errors. Give me a break I’m dyslexic haha.
Posted by When in Rome
Telegraph Road
Member since Jan 2011
35542 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 4:02 pm to
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Would you allow your child to be put on Adderall/Vyvanse at 8-10 years of age?
Absolutely not.
Posted by Rossberg02
Member since Jun 2016
2591 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 4:06 pm to
No, I’d bend over backwards trying to get my kids to learn ways to overcome those issues. It’s hard work and I see how my wife is with making sure routines and repetitive redirection and am very thankful.

Ya want a quick fix at the cost of your child or do you want to put in some work and defeat those struggles?
Posted by YouKnowIt
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2005
454 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 4:11 pm to
As someone who was put on Ritalin in third grade and who is also possibly dyslexic (I've been told twice that I was probably dyslexic but we never had the money when I was growing up to get tested)...

absolutely not.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22164 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 4:12 pm to
Yes if it is messing with school and you've gone through tons of therapy first.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20505 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 4:13 pm to
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The ADHD can be helped by therapy


Whatever you do, do NOT listen to this person.

I have lived through this with my brother, and two of my children. Let your kid take the meds. Get him through school, THEN let him decide if he wants to continue on them. Both he and you will regret it if you don't.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90617 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 4:13 pm to
No but the prescription anyways and sell it on the street.

Adderall is expensive on the street these days. 10-15 bucks a pill for 30mg instant release. Can probably get 5-6 bucks for 10mg. 60 count script and you’ve made 300 bucks every month
Posted by td1
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
2837 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 4:15 pm to
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I never understood that.. Amphetamines as a downer?


If you have ADD or ADHD that is what it does. From what I read, it has something to do with the drug keeping you racing brain busy allowing you to concentrate better. If you don’t have ADD or ADHD you don’t get the same effect, but will notice being able to concentrate more. It is kind of weird how it works.

Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 4:16 pm to
Depends on if they shared
Posted by CenlaLowell
Alexandria, la
Member since Apr 2016
1014 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 4:19 pm to
Your gonna wish you had. My daughter has been on it around that age. Every teacher will want to talk to you every year about issue with her learning. What we do is Monday- Friday during school she takes it. Any other time no
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7004 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 4:21 pm to
Not me. I would take my kid off of sugar, caffeine and chemical additives. I would also get him involved in a mild exercise program that's enjoyable and fun.

If all that didn't work, I'd get him stoned on weed.
Posted by LSUvegasbombed
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2013
15464 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 4:22 pm to
great thread because I am starting to wonder about my 4 year old. He doesnt sleep. I think he has insomnia. I think this causes other issues like lack of concentration, etc etc... He can jus act so strange at times and I just feel like its because he doesnt sleep well and long enough. Reading ADHD can contribute to that. Not sure where to go from here
Posted by Floyd Dawg
Silver Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2018
3905 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 4:23 pm to
Not a fricking chance in hell.

I'm grateful that my parents ignored the doctors back in the 80s who wanted to put me on meds.
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
25737 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 4:30 pm to
It would have to an extreme case in which I exhausted all other options. I hope it’s a decision I don’t have to make.
Posted by vistajay
Member since Oct 2012
2499 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 4:33 pm to
I've had experience on both sides of the therapy v. drugs decision.

First child diagnosed in 2nd grade and Dr. suggested medication. School also assessed her and pushed us to address with medication. We said no, and got her a job board instead. She had a list of jobs to do around the house and a star to put next to ones she accomplished, and also including her homework, prayers, etc... It focused her and as the first child we had the energy to focus on her. Worked out well. She's a very disciplined person and was an excellent student.

Second child, a boy, struggled in 7th-8th grade academically; at least compared to our expectations and his prior performance. It was tough to watch him try and study and not get the results he wanted. I don't know if we didn't have the energy with the second child or if his perceived failures seemed more acute, but this time we took the Vyvanse recommendation. It worked pretty well for him. His academic performance improved dramatically, and he still had lots of creativity. But it does sometimes make him depressed, and he counsels others not to take it. He's gradually weened himself off it in college.

With an 8-10 year old, I'd try very hard to build some structure for him at home and try to avoid medication. But it's a lot of work for the parents and the kid.
This post was edited on 11/2/20 at 4:35 pm
Posted by MarinaTigerEsq
Member since Aug 2019
1330 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 4:33 pm to
I absolutely wouldn’t. Try diet, exercise, and tutoring first.
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