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Would the US be as rich and powerful today if Europe hadn’t wiped itself out twice?
Posted on 7/17/19 at 11:46 am
Posted on 7/17/19 at 11:46 am
Not rhetorical, but a thought exercise. Was our country destined to attain top status regardless due to our system or do we owe alot of what we are today to the Archduke’s assassin, the man who effectively started both World Wars?
What would an alternate reality, World Wars never happened, Earth look like for the US?
What would an alternate reality, World Wars never happened, Earth look like for the US?
This post was edited on 7/17/19 at 11:48 am
Posted on 7/17/19 at 11:47 am to weagle99
Capitalism and democracy are the reasons we’re the most powerful country. Europe’s destruction of itself twice over didn’t hurt either
Posted on 7/17/19 at 11:49 am to weagle99
The US borrows money from china to fund the foodstamp program. I don't see how America is rich?
Posted on 7/17/19 at 11:49 am to weagle99
Hmmmmmm...Europe as a whole probably would have been better off had the Germans had an early victory in WW1, or beaten the Soviets in WW2
This post was edited on 7/17/19 at 11:50 am
Posted on 7/17/19 at 11:49 am to weagle99
No. The two world wars were the best thing that ever happened to the US.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 11:50 am to weagle99
Europe's history..the way they built cities, sanitation, etc
Was all a blueprint for what not to do. We avoided a lot of grief by not doing what they did a lot.
Was all a blueprint for what not to do. We avoided a lot of grief by not doing what they did a lot.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 11:52 am to weagle99
Germany has been invading Europe for thousands of years. We are just keeping the peace ATM. The moment we pull out, those bastards will attack again.
This post was edited on 7/17/19 at 11:54 am
Posted on 7/17/19 at 11:57 am to NolaTiger52
The answer is probably not. WWII and the post-war era we experienced one of the largest outward shift in aggregate demand for goods we have ever seen on this planet.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 12:00 pm to weagle99
I think it’s mostly a mindset that we have. It’s was the idea of a few people initially, but was adopted and now instilled in the masses.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 12:05 pm to weagle99
Prior to the Great War the U.S. was the world's leader in agriculture and industry. We were a creditor nation. Without 2 world wars we likely wouldn't have seen the rise of the military industrial complex and the subsequent burden it puts on our federal budget. In other words, we were already the richest nation. We'd likely be much the same philosophically as we were 103 years ago: isolationist with the only exception revolving around strengthening our economy.
Surrounded by ocean with no desire to be the world's police, we would likely have a small military as no nation would possess the resources to mount an invasion of the mainland us. We might have seen an uptick in military size/technology during a conflict with Japan over their attempt to create a greater Asiatic sphere.
Also, there likely wouldn't have been a Soviet union.
Surrounded by ocean with no desire to be the world's police, we would likely have a small military as no nation would possess the resources to mount an invasion of the mainland us. We might have seen an uptick in military size/technology during a conflict with Japan over their attempt to create a greater Asiatic sphere.
Also, there likely wouldn't have been a Soviet union.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 12:17 pm to weagle99
The post war boom helped a lot but the US has about ideal geography.
A long navigable river up the middle of the country. Extensive arable land. Numerous natural harbors. Oil. Coal.
A long navigable river up the middle of the country. Extensive arable land. Numerous natural harbors. Oil. Coal.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 12:46 pm to JETigER
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The US borrows money from china to fund it's massive military budget. I don't see how America is rich?
FIFY
Food stamps $71B
Military: $598B
Federal Budget deficit: $1.1 Trillion
Posted on 7/17/19 at 12:56 pm to weagle99
Long story short yes.
Look at our industrial capabilities, natural resources, physical size, and natural borders.
We have every advantage and believe in free market capitalism (used to at least) which is the most efficient and effective economic engine ever devised.
Look at our industrial capabilities, natural resources, physical size, and natural borders.
We have every advantage and believe in free market capitalism (used to at least) which is the most efficient and effective economic engine ever devised.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 12:59 pm to wutangfinancial
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WWII and the post-war era
If we weren’t run by such bleeding hearts in the immediate post war era we would have a fricking stranglehold on the world. We would dominate literally everywhere, and openly.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 1:01 pm to Tigeralum2008
Cool, now add up SS, medicare, and all of the other checks issued out. Hint, it’s bigger than the military.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 1:02 pm to weagle99
Weren't a lot of industrial and technical innovations brought about because of the wars?
I wonder what our state of technology would be without them.
I wonder what our state of technology would be without them.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 1:05 pm to Duke
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The post war boom helped a lot but the US has about ideal geography.
A long navigable river up the middle of the country. Extensive arable land. Numerous natural harbors. Oil. Coal.
And borders with only 2 countries plus being on the Atlantic and Pacific.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 1:06 pm to weagle99
We fought on the side of the bad guys in ww2
This post was edited on 7/17/19 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 7/17/19 at 1:22 pm to pilsnerpusher
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Prior to the Great War the U.S. was the world's leader in agriculture and industry.
Not technology, though, that was the Germans. Much of that was shifted to the US because of WWII. The nuclear program, NASA, much of our chemical industry is based on German patents that we took.
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we were already the richest nation.
That was Britain due to their empire. WWI changed that with our massive arms sales and loans to Britain. We drained them financially.
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We'd likely be much the same philosophically as we were 103 years ago: isolationist with the only exception revolving around strengthening our economy.
We'd probably be less expansionist than we've become, but do't forget the Spanish American War. That really was the beginning of our empire building.
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Also, there likely wouldn't have been a Soviet union.
Yep, we pretty much had to build our power to counter that and it changed the country and the world.
Overall the word would be better off if there had been no world wars. The US would be just fine economically, maybe a better standard of living since we could have spent less on the military. But we would be a major power instead of THE dominant power.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 1:27 pm to weagle99
Yes because at those times, our country was private property oriented which allows people to acquire more, be more creative, and produce more as they benefit from the fruits of their labor.
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