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re: Would the US be as rich and powerful today if Europe hadn’t wiped itself out twice?

Posted on 7/17/19 at 1:37 pm to
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 7/17/19 at 1:37 pm to
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That was Britain due to their empire. WWI changed that with our massive arms sales and loans to Britain. We drained them financially.



Not entirely true. We already had the world’s largest economy prior to WW1. It’s a bit iffy because India and the British’s other colonies aren’t included in their total because they were territories not actually part of the country. But even if you add in India’s economy to the British, the US still had the largest.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 7/17/19 at 1:41 pm to
We had the worlds largest economy but the financial capital of the world was in London prior to WWI. After it was in New York
Posted by oleheat
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Posted on 7/17/19 at 1:43 pm to
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Capitalism and democracy are the reasons we’re the most powerful country. Europe’s destruction of itself twice over didn’t hurt either


I agree- and would add the abundance of critical natural resources to that, as well.
Posted by ksayetiger
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Posted on 7/17/19 at 1:46 pm to
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We'd likely be much the same philosophically as we were 103 years ago: isolationist with the only exception revolving around strengthening our economy.


But you forgot about oil.
Posted by pilsnerpusher
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 7/17/19 at 2:17 pm to
Maybe...maybe not.

We were a global oil supplier at the turn of the 20th century and we're about to pass Saudi Arabia as the world's leading oil exporter in the 21st century. Perhaps without the world wars we would've been more likely to look to our own resources sooner?
Posted by keks tadpole
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Posted on 7/17/19 at 2:21 pm to
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The US borrows money from china to fund the foodstamp program. I don't see how America is rich?


stacks of green paper doesn't necessarily make you rich
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 7/17/19 at 2:39 pm to
the US wasn't really a major world player until WWI and WWII so no, I don't think that we would be. We would probably be better off because a lot of the changes to our government/economy during the Cold War have contributed to us playing world police and sinking in to debt over BS wars.
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 7/17/19 at 2:43 pm to
it would take quite a few discretionary spending categories to add up to the military expenditure.

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Posted by CptRusty
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Posted on 7/17/19 at 2:49 pm to
with my admittedly superficial knowledge of the topic at hand, I would guess that it is a combination of factors with probably the biggest being WW2, followed by "american exceptionalism".

There are dozens of countries which were largely unaffected by the destruction of WW2 which did not prosper afterwards the way that we did.
Posted by Flashback
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 7/17/19 at 9:14 pm to
We wiped our self out once, just to be fair.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 7/17/19 at 9:19 pm to
WW1 was the greatest tragedy we’ve experienced since the fall of Constantinople.
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