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Posted on 1/12/26 at 12:04 pm to Clark14
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I’m not against getting illegals out like has been done since 2003 when ICE was formed.
ICE was created from INS, so deportations were being done long before W created ICE. Before that US Marshals had done some immigration related activities.
This was happening since the USA was founded.
Nothing new - except that some people suddenly decided that they can challenge law enforcement personnel on the streets.
Posted on 1/12/26 at 12:13 pm to AnchorDownVU
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I'm in support of protesting and I believe it is a fundamental right that is a major part of a freedoms. However, you have to be smart. Protest in front of the capitol. Have an organized march (that will have police protection). Those protests, even ones I disagree with, are fine. They are safely getting their message out and no one is being put into danger.
True dat - by protesting in the street they are actually committing a CRIME.
If you have a problem with a law - the only people you should inconvenience are the ones who have to power to change it. You can engage other voters in debate to try and get them to agree with your point of view. You can boycott ideas you don't like.
But you CANNOT inconveniences anyone with your 'problem' - you CERTAINLT cannot threaten them.
Democrats are evil.
Posted on 1/12/26 at 12:25 pm to Robin Masters
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lol the right should just sit back and let the left run amuck unabated for a few years. They would do a far better job tearing themselves to shreds that the right ever could.
Case and Point Seattle during covid.
Took a couple years but they sure did hire a full force police force after the Council turnover. Get what you vote for...
Posted on 1/12/26 at 12:26 pm to Rabby
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ICE was created from INS, so deportations were being done long before W created ICE. Before that US Marshals had done some immigration related activities. This was happening since the USA was founded. Nothing new - except that some people suddenly decided that they can challenge law enforcement personnel on the streets.
Technically with the feds it started in 1808. Until 1808 the constitution allowed the states to allow in the amount they felt was proper before Congress took over. The Feds could still tax importations of people before 1808.
Posted on 1/12/26 at 12:28 pm to mthorn2
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Case and Point Seattle during covid. Took a couple years but they sure did hire a full force police force after the Council turnover. Get what you vote for...
Seattle is still short of a full force.
Posted on 1/12/26 at 12:36 pm to ChineseBandit58
Protest... But only in the way your oppressor wants you to. That's effective protest!
Posted on 1/12/26 at 12:39 pm to wesfau
that was not a protest, don’t be disingenuous.
Posted on 1/12/26 at 12:40 pm to Klark Kent
Was only opining on the idiocy in the post I replied to.
Posted on 1/12/26 at 12:44 pm to wesfau
Posted on 1/12/26 at 12:44 pm to brass2mouth
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What you don’t do is hang out in the path of the vehicle while your partner is trying to extricate the driver excluding some severe exigencies.
You make some points, but I see some things differently. You seem to view this as a patrolman would - rather than an investigator.
I think that the agent was video documenting the vehicle position from 360 degrees with intent to file obstruction charges and did not regard her as an immediate threat while doing so - until she reversed course by shifting to drive and hit the gas. This surprised him and he went from evidence collection to defensive actions. Threat recognition to shot delivery was necessarily very rapid.
quote:So you think that she put her car in drive without even looking where she would be going - while being told what to do by her S/O? That is possible - the agent's phone video is likely the best evidence on that point. But we both know that point is not really relevant. Her spinning wheels and orientation towards the agent puts this in the reasonable self defense category. And the event is in the federal jurisdiction.
IMO she probably didn’t even see him due to her sensory system being overloaded.
The S/O's actions on the other hand could result in charges being filed against her. She is a large part of the causal chain.
Having said this, we are actually more in agreement than disagreement.
Posted on 1/12/26 at 12:46 pm to Rabby
This is dumb, the video doesn't support any of it. Quit trying to justify murder.
This post was edited on 1/12/26 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 1/12/26 at 2:19 pm to Centinel
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The important people in this country have already come out to say "say her name" and "lives matter" are only allowed to be used by the darker skinned members of our community.
Dear White Women:
We don't need you running around virtue signaling on our behalf.
Signed,
Black Women
Posted on 1/12/26 at 2:47 pm to wesfau
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Quit trying to justify murder.
She wasn't murdered.
Posted on 1/12/26 at 3:18 pm to wesfau
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Was only opining on the idiocy in the post I replied to.
By replying with actual idiocy and maybe even bordering a little on the beginnings of sedition???
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Protest... But only in the way your oppressor wants you to. That's effective protest!
If you don’t want to be held responsible for illegal actions while protesting including putting others in danger while breaking the law the issue is obviously not worth breaking laws to you, so you should work within the system and the laws in place for change which can still include legal forms of protest.
Today’s left wants to illegally obstruct and even commit acts of insurrection and then pretend they had a right to do so and should be allowed to go back to living with their mommies without any consequences for breaking the law using incorrectly but still trying to use the very tool that created the alleged oppressor they are fighting.
Posted on 1/12/26 at 4:21 pm to dallastigers
These silver-TDS'ers gon' full momma-bear.
Their kids are probably done with their bullshite so all this is redirected instinct and probably some menopausal hormones too.
In any event a good chunk of their rage is at Trump himself.
The them, Trump is the alpha that never proposed.
And they bitter about it to this day.
Their kids are probably done with their bullshite so all this is redirected instinct and probably some menopausal hormones too.
In any event a good chunk of their rage is at Trump himself.
The them, Trump is the alpha that never proposed.
And they bitter about it to this day.
This post was edited on 1/12/26 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 1/12/26 at 4:27 pm to Rabby
quote:agree
I think that the agent was video documenting the vehicle position from 360 degrees with intent to file obstruction charges and did not regard her as an immediate threat while doing so - until she reversed course by shifting to drive and hit the gas. This surprised him and he went from evidence collection to defensive actions. Threat recognition to shot delivery was necessarily very rapid.
Posted on 1/12/26 at 4:40 pm to Stat M Repairman
These Morons really think they invented everything, don't they?
As if people haven't been saying the name of the dead as a rallying cry for...forever?
Such horse-crap.
As if people haven't been saying the name of the dead as a rallying cry for...forever?
Such horse-crap.
Posted on 1/12/26 at 4:52 pm to dallastigers
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Today’s left wants to illegally obstruct and even commit acts of insurrection and then pretend they had a right to do so and should be allowed to go back to living with their mommies without any consequences for breaking the law using incorrectly but still trying to use the very tool that created the alleged oppressor they are fighting.
They learned they can burn public and private businesses to the ground with no consequences.
Posted on 1/12/26 at 5:21 pm to dallastigers
quote:Okay.
Technically with the feds it started in 1808. Until 1808 the constitution allowed the states to allow in the amount they felt was proper before Congress took over. The Feds could still tax importations of people before 1808.
Only partly true. The silly alien and sedition act predated 1808.
And which agency would have enforced both of those laws?
But the larger issue here is that the current deportation activities are simply a return to what Clinton and GW Bush were doing on a regular basis during their administrations.
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