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re: Woman in Minnesota tried ramming ICE Officer gets unalived. NSFW

Posted on 1/7/26 at 4:28 pm to
Posted by Harry Caray
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Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 1/7/26 at 4:28 pm to
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Call it what you like. Can you agree in this specific circumstance this lady put herself in the position that ultimately led to her death?
Of course. I’ve been saying that for several pages.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88012 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 4:30 pm to
It doesn’t matter one bit what she was trying to do. Y’all keep bringing that up as if it changes the justification. It’s adorable.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/7/26 at 4:32 pm to
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People are cheering on the literal creation of the deep state police... I know I will get downvoted but this is just the start.


And at least local LEOs are trained to manage situations so that they don’t endanger civilians around the incident.

Not remotely a fan of an ICE officer taking multiple shots at a vehicle driving away in a residential area.
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
33373 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 4:37 pm to
So is it your claim that she drove from out of state to drive around police officers in the street?
Posted by brass2mouth
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 1/7/26 at 4:37 pm to
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And at least local LEOs are trained to manage situations so that they don’t endanger civilians around the incident.


Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38449 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 4:39 pm to
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He’s going to prison.




If Michael Byrd isn't in prison, this guy certainly isn't going either.
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38449 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 4:40 pm to
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And at least local LEOs are trained to manage situations so that they don’t endanger civilians around the incident.



It's completely different jobs. Local law enforcement isn't doing snatch and grabs. That's essentially what ICE does all day with a pack of crazy liberals following them.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10611 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 4:40 pm to
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What is scary is that the people cheering this on are doing that today...

Saying that this officer was justified in this specific case isnt cheering on anything.

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What happens in the future if some ultra-leftiest is in power? They could literally use ICE in a different manner without checks and no one would be able to do a thing.
This is implying that ICE is breaking laws when they enforce immigration laws which is ignorant.

They are enforcing immigration law which is their specific job and based on federal law with powers granted to the feds by our constitution. They also have been following leftwing wing activist Judicial decisions until higher courts overturn them. How is this unchecked? Is it just because you disagree??

They can also arrest for obstructing federal enforcement of immigration laws and defend themselves while doing their jobs. In today’s reality the only reason they actually have to deal with people illegally obstructing or blocking traffic is because the local cops in a blue city have been told to stand down.

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Posted on 1/7/26 at 4:43 pm to
Posted by IT_Dawg
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/7/26 at 4:44 pm to
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So is it your claim that she drove from out of state to drive around police officers in the street?


Been confirmed she was a resident of Minneapolis. But based on her social media stuff, she was definitely a liberal that would likely be a protester
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
20113 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 4:44 pm to
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Saying that this officer was justified in this specific case isnt cheering on anything.


Friend imagine if someone like Kamala gets in office and the people puppeteering her use this same organization for "control".

We're basically giving up our own rights at that point because we saying this organization as long as it can be identified as Federal should have the right to force whenever they can "justify" it.

I get you guys will defend this but if you take a step back and look at the bigger picture this is a scary thing and basically is the police state people have feared... at least a starting point for that unstoppable unquestionable force against civilians.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 1/7/26 at 4:45 pm to
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Good Lordt, the fact that any of you a-holes believe that she was trying to ram an officer shows how fricked up this site is. Unbelievable. She backed up to go around the guy and he shot her. Judge, jury and executioner. He’s going to prison.

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Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88012 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 4:50 pm to
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get you guys will defend this but if you take a step back and look at the bigger picture this is a scary thing and basically is the police state people have feared... at least a starting point for that unstoppable unquestionable force against civilians.
Should civilians be using their cars recklessly without consequences? At a minimum, she gets arrested. But then she decides to try and drive off while thy attempted to detain her. We don’t know her intent. But even if it was to get away, she still drove at an officer of the law. FAFO. Simple case.
Posted by Tigerbait46
Member since Dec 2005
8064 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 4:57 pm to
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The Department of Justice says in its Justice Manual that firearms should not be used simply to disable a moving vehicle.

The policy allows deadly force only in limited circumstances, such as when someone in the vehicle is threatening another person with deadly force, or when the vehicle itself is being used in a way that poses an imminent risk and no reasonable alternative exists, including moving out of the vehicle’s path.


The Officer managed to not only move out of the vehicle's path, but actually leaned back toward the vehicle and over the hood in order to get a head shot. Move out of the vehicle's path was a reasonable alternative. Getting the plate number and calling it in for arrest was a reasonable alternative.

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Police training experts have told The Associated Press that officers are generally taught not to step in front of moving vehicles to try to block them.

Training also emphasizes weighing the totality of the situation, including whether the person involved poses an immediate danger and whether the underlying allegation involves violence.


What was the allegation? Was this woman a threat with firearms of her own? Was she recklessly driving around before this trying to hit ICE Officers? We don't know the answers for sure, but if you watch the longer video, you'll see that before the truck pulls up, she actually starts to roll out, then stops to let another SUV go in front of her, then waves at the ICE truck, which had room to pass by just as the previous vehicle did. The truck stops instead, and the Officers step out, approach her, and immediately try opening her door. I want to know what cause they had to escalate the situation so quickly.

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Many department policies specifically bar firing at vehicles just to stop a fleeing suspect.


There was a crowd behind her vehicle. Firing at the vehicle was a danger to bystanders.

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This post was edited on 1/7/26 at 4:58 pm
Posted by stout
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Member since Sep 2006
182512 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 4:59 pm to
Witness to the shooting: “She was the main car leading the protest and impeding officers”


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That ends any legal issues as ICE can arrest for impeding a Fed officer.

Also:

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Courts (including in Tousis v. Billiot) have consistently held that:

A vehicle can qualify as a deadly weapon under use-of-force and Fourth Amendment analysis.

Speed is not determinative; even low-speed movement can be deadly depending on context.

What matters is whether the vehicle is capable of causing serious bodily injury or death and whether officers or bystanders are in close proximity.

A vehicle being used to escape while officers are nearby can reasonably be perceived as posing a deadly threat.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
47851 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 5:04 pm to
The funding behind these lunatics are laughing
Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2007
14470 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 5:04 pm to
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She backed up to go around the guy and he shot her

She was beginning to leave when at least one officer was attempting to stop her when she puts the vehicle in reverse (hence grabbing the door handle and reaching into the vehicle). She continues to disobey and shifts into drive and accelerates forward toward the officer who has a split second to determine if she is going to accelerate into him or attempt to go around him, while also potentially dragging a fellow officer.
Posted by Woolfpack
Member since Jun 2021
1733 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 5:04 pm to
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We may have to one day, brother. Steel your heart for what’s coming


Out of respect for POTUS Donald Trump, we should not indulge the left in this type of ideology. We need to give him, his administration and MAGA time to right the ship.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
172358 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 5:09 pm to
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unalived.


You can say “killed” on here
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10611 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 5:09 pm to
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And at least local LEOs are trained to manage situations so that they don’t endanger civilians around the incident.


Besides this not always happening in practice and have seen cops shoot at vehicles coming at them with others in vicinity where were the locals today? Why in blue cities in blue states is ICE left to deal with lawbreaking protesters when as you said they aren’t as trained to handle these situations as locals are trained?

One would think this kind of situation was discussed by those in charge of these cities, and they still went with it. Did they want something like this to eventually happen so it can be exploited?

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