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re: Woman handles timber rattlesnake thinking it’s a rat snake

Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:17 pm to
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
3835 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:17 pm to
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I’ll look at its eyes after I’ve detached its head with my shovel.


I'm aware this is a joke but a good time to remind people do not touch a snake's head even after you've chopped it off, they will still bite your arse.
Posted by Mark Makers
The LP
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:21 pm to


stumbled upon this copperhead WHILE I WAS mowing grass the other day

ETA
This post was edited on 9/6/24 at 12:55 pm
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61432 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:25 pm to
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If the head is bigger than the body leading to it, most likely venomous. Easiest way to remember.
Not a great take, a picture of a juvenile rat snake for comparison.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111402 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:26 pm to
Besides the coral snake(which is easily identifiable), if you assume big head means venomous the worst mistake will be you accidentally think a non venomous snake is one

It’s a good rule for the common person to follow
This post was edited on 9/6/24 at 12:28 pm
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
26314 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:29 pm to
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Besides the coral snake, if you assume big head means venomous the worst mistake will be you accidentally think a non venomous snake is one It’s a good rule for the common person to follow


Exactly. Now someone above did have a good point about the baby snakes. Just avoid all of them. Same with any snake with coral colorings (and yes I know the saying).
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24001 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:34 pm to
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After looking at some pics, I'm not sure I'd be able to tell the difference in a baby rat snake and a baby timber rattler.

You're going to have to look close enough to see the Loreal pit. Pit vipers have and extra false nostril.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75120 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:34 pm to
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Apparently there’s an iNaturalist app that helps identify things too as a backup

iNat is good for just about anything you'll run across, snakes, insects, fish, plants, trees, and it can put you on the right path for mushrooms (they are tricky with most any ID app). There are few things that can't be IDed, at least to the genus level, using a combo of iNat and Google Lens.
Posted by texn
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Member since Nov 2019
4101 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:38 pm to
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stumbled upon this copperhead mowing grass the other day


How can it push the mower, it's got no arms!
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
3835 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:40 pm to
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stumbled upon this copperhead mowing grass the other day


Dude, catch that guy for me. I don't like copperheads around, but if he mows the grass that'd be worth it.
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
3835 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:42 pm to
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if you assume big head means venomous the worst mistake will be you accidentally think a non venomous snake is one

It’s a good rule for the common person to follow


I mean...but it's wrong. The only reason it's "okay" is because it encourages people not to touch snakes. It might also encourage people to kill otherwise harmless snakes because "big head".

A good rule for a common person to follow is "is that a snake? Yes? Better not touch it"
Posted by Mark Makers
The LP
Member since Jul 2015
2414 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:54 pm to
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 9/6/24 at 2:17 pm to
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 9/6/24 at 2:19 pm to
This is why I shoot first, ID later.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
139391 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 2:32 pm to
Seems she's lucky she posted to FB or she might have died.
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
3835 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 2:35 pm to
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Aren’t baby rattlers uber venomous? Or is that some old wive’s tale?


Old wives tail.

It stems from how likely you are to get a wet bite (snake uses its venom).

Adults sometimes issue a dry bite. They know you aren’t prey and just want you to go away. So sometimes they think it’s best not to waste their venom on something they can’t kill/eat. It’s hard for snakes to uh…refill their venom. So they save it for food.

Babies much less frequently. They haven’t learned what’s what yet. So when a young one bites it’s pretty likely you’re getting a dose of venom.

But if you get a wet bite, way better if it comes from a baby than an adult.
This post was edited on 9/6/24 at 2:39 pm
Posted by Traffic Circle
Down the Rabbit Hole
Member since Nov 2013
5021 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 2:40 pm to
So, if I’m reading all this correctly, it’s good to have a pointy, larger head than the rest of the elongated body of the snake? Hmm …..
Posted by xBirdx
Member since Sep 2018
2631 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 2:41 pm to
Is this for full grown as well?
Posted by SingleMalt1973
Member since Feb 2022
24337 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 2:43 pm to
Happens every Sunday on Sand Mt in Alabama

Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
74838 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 2:45 pm to
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If the head is bigger than the body leading to it, most likely venomous. Easiest way to remember.
I HAD a girlfriend who thought this way.

Note the past tense.
Posted by Maytheporkbewithyou
Member since Aug 2016
14135 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 3:56 pm to
I bet she makes bad sandwiches, too.
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