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re: Will California's new water rules push people out of the Golden State?

Posted on 6/7/18 at 3:54 pm to
Posted by RedlandsTiger
Greenwell Springs, LA
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 3:54 pm to
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Why do people link fox news as a real source?


Especially an opinion post.

LINK
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 3:55 pm to
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It's not about the application of how much you get, it's about the principle that the government can limit how much of a natural resource you can consume.



Well...there are two choices...let the government limit how much of a natural resource you can consume...or let the market forces and supply of an actual limited resource do it. Why do you think they are trying to curb consumption?





Why else would they want to limit consumption?





If you want to have a strong agricultural base to your economy...you have to divert water from somewhere. There is only so much water you can continue to drain from Lake Dillon.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 3:56 pm to
55 gallons per person per day? Average Mexican household gets 1500 gallons a day then
Posted by tiger7166
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 3:57 pm to
Golden State Showers
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 4:04 pm to
How do people with a pool get a pass? That's like telling smokers they get a smoke break. Let's give the people that use the most amount of water a pass.

California doesn't have a water problem for people, they have a water problem for agriculture. They turned a shite load of dessert into agrictultural land.
Posted by Statestreet
Gueydan
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 4:13 pm to
From your link: California wants to limit household daily usage to 55 gallons, then to 50 gallons

The average shower takes 17.2 gallons, so a family of 4 taking a shower easily exceeds the 55 gallon limit then add on at least 11 gallons to wash clothes. Sounds to me like you will need to choose between clothes or showering.

Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 4:15 pm to
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Why do people link fox news as a real source?


You link the sacbee as real news
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 4:17 pm to
The dirty hippies will love this
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38577 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 4:19 pm to
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From your link: California wants to limit household daily usage to 55 gallons, then to 50 gallons

From the link:
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Water agencies will be encouraged to have their customers limit indoor water use to an average of 55 gallons a day per person

Where are you seeing per household?
Posted by bootyswamper
Paulina KopKop
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 4:21 pm to
Thought Denver was the sunshine state
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 4:22 pm to
They can only use 55gal a day

My shower does 8gpm, so I'd only get a 6 minute shower, a toilet flush, and brush my teeth. After that, I'd be buying bottled water and contributing to the bigger problem of plastic waste.

I wonder how much it costs to drill a well in CA
Posted by MLCLyons
Member since Nov 2012
4793 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 4:23 pm to
The dumb thing about this is that agriculture and companies like Nestle use so much more water than individuals. It's like setting restrictions on car emissions but letting factories and plants do whatever they want.


Oh and frick Nestle.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38577 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 4:27 pm to
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They can only use 55gal a day

My shower does 8gpm, so I'd only get a 6 minute shower, a toilet flush, and brush my teeth. After that, I'd be buying bottled water and contributing to the bigger problem of plastic waste.

Or you could just keep using your water and pay your fraction of a cent share of the $1000 fine your water company might be hit with. Or bottled water. Whatever is easier.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
39644 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 4:29 pm to
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I don't get it either.. Look, I know both CNN and Fox are biased. One is conservative and the other is liberal, but Fox is more obvious.
Not even close to being true

CNN is 90+ percent negative Trump
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 4:34 pm to
You don't think the water company will start billing customers for overages? Did you ride the short bus to school?
Posted by YungFO
Dallas
Member since Mar 2018
1144 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 4:34 pm to
look up "Day 0" in Capetown, South Africa.
Due to droughts (like the ones in California and Capetown) and other circumstances, it is totally possible to run out of water.

The slant this article is taking is fear mongering bullshite. The state is just trying to avoid a "Day 0" type scenario. Yes, it sounds ridiculous that the state will monitor your water usage, but if people in those communities are just a little mindful of their usage, it could really help out.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
28116 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 4:36 pm to
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In theory, taking a 5 minute shower, a load of clothes and 3 toilet flushes and a washing a load of dishes would use around 45 gallons.
Who the frick only takes a 5 minute shower? I take a pretty quick shower and it’s probably 8 minutes. 10 minutes in the shower is more reasonable for the average person, especially considering women shave their legs and other things in the shower.

So that’s 25 gallons. And low flow shower heads suck by the way.

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Front load washers only use around an average of 20 gallons per load

And on laundry day I’m not just washing 1 load of clothes. I’m washing clothes, towels, sheets, etc. it would be a pain in the arse to spread these out. That’s 60 gallons right there if it’s laundry day.

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The average dishwasher uses 6 gallons per cycle.
I use the dishwasher probably every other day. Add 6 more gallons.

And as for the toilets... who only flushed 3 times a day? If you piss in the morning after you wake up and piss at night before you go to bed, they only leaves you with 1 flush for the rest of the day? GTFO. I’d probably piss another 2 times in between there, and shite at least once. We’re talking at least 6 flushes.

So add 9 more gallons.

That’s 100 gallons on a pretty normal day.

And I haven’t even mentioned other things like watering the grass and garden, filling the pool, cooking, drinking, washing the car, etc.
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 4:40 pm to
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taking a 5 minute shower



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and 3 toilet flushes




Posted by Montezuma
Member since Apr 2013
3683 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 4:40 pm to
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California doesn't have a water problem for people, they have a water problem for agriculture. They turned a shite load of dessert into agrictultural land.


Same with eastern WA and OR, as well as swaths of ID. They are all fertile soils and produce a great amount of produce. It's a pretty good tradeoff. The drought was just insane over there and they are planning with that in mind.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38577 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 4:42 pm to
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You don't think the water company will start billing customers for overages? Did you ride the short bus to school?

The average water bill is $50-$70 a month in CA. What kind of overages do you think they could get away with that would be more expensive than showering with bottled water?
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