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Posted on 3/28/19 at 8:15 pm to Martini
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This was tried in the last session and was shot down in committee. It will be brought up again in this session and it needs to be supported. Everyone pays a gas tax that uses the roads.
The 17 cent gas tax proposed wouldnt have even covered inflation since the last time it was raised.
That being said, I understand the trepidation. After Jindal kept moving funds around to balance the budget ( instead of cutting things), people dont believe that any specialized funds are safe to be spent on the intended purpose. Its sad, because i voted for Jindal.
This post was edited on 3/28/19 at 8:17 pm
Posted on 3/28/19 at 8:17 pm to East Coast Band
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Fun fact: the Amazon River has no bridges that cross it.
Get the hell out of anal
Posted on 3/28/19 at 8:17 pm to tigerinthebueche
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Fair enough. Your vote, your choice. I’d cancel you out though cause I’m convinced the money would be syphoned off for other purposes. We were told With the first gas tax that this was it. Everything will be handled if you just give us this tax! LOFnL. It takes them 20 years to start a project. By then the budget is blown. Same shite different administrations.
You spout this same shite every time. Why not look at the linked program and see what was done with the dedicated tax. All projects except 2 that were for environmental and legal reasons.
Now if you have a complaint about that program from a Baton Rouge argument nothing was done in this area except the Audubon Bridge. New Orleans as usual got the bulk including NO Airport terminal renovation which in a month will be obsolete.
Posted on 3/28/19 at 8:18 pm to tigerinthebueche
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gas tax
The Republican Governor of Alabama just pushed a 10 cent a gallon gas tax to help roads.
LOL. Like we'll see any real improvements in roads in Alabama
Posted on 3/28/19 at 8:18 pm to fallguy_1978
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Even if it's ballpark we certainly didn't get any bang for our buck building a half a billion dollar bridge that has less traffic than Coursey Blvd on any given day. Your government at work
Fallguy, Coursey Blvd carries 10 times the traffic that the $600,000,000 Audubon Bridge carries on a daily basis. Let that sink in.
Posted on 3/28/19 at 8:19 pm to FightingTigers138
Wrong
This post was edited on 3/28/19 at 8:19 pm
Posted on 3/28/19 at 8:19 pm to tigerinthebueche
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I’d prefer privately funded toll roads.
This is what i prefer, but all toll road arent as attractive to investors. Some dont project that the tolls alone will cover cost. Some projections are as low as 10% of the cost.
That being said, if it can work in Baton Rouge, i would love it.
Posted on 3/28/19 at 8:21 pm to Martini
EBR has actually made a hell of an investment in its roads since it approved Tom Ed’s first road plan. The surface streets are vastly better than they were 25 years ago. Five lanes in most instances and concrete rather than blacktop.
The state has absolutely dropped the ball with state highways and the interstate system with the Feds
The state has absolutely dropped the ball with state highways and the interstate system with the Feds
Posted on 3/28/19 at 8:23 pm to Martini
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Now if you have a complaint about that program from a Baton Rouge argument nothing was done in this area except the Audubon Bridge. New Orleans as usual got the bulk including NO Airport terminal renovation which in a month will be obsolete.
Well then I’m not really spouting shite am I?
Posted on 3/28/19 at 8:24 pm to FightingTigers138
If anyone thinks our roads will be completely private funded they have no idea how this works. No company in their right mind is coming to Louisiana to build a toll bridge with exclusive private funding depending on this tax base to pay an actual toll. These yahoos complain about any tax and to them a toll is nothing more than a tax. They would complain if they were hung with a new rope.
Funding will have to be a combination of federal, state, local funding as well as private.
Which means new taxes or no new roads.
Funding will have to be a combination of federal, state, local funding as well as private.
Which means new taxes or no new roads.
Posted on 3/28/19 at 8:27 pm to tigerinthebueche
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Well then I’m not really spouting shite am I?
You are. The dedicated tax paid for exactly what it was dedicated for. Blame your local legislators for not taking care of you-but you got your Audubon Bridge. So what are you complaining about?
Posted on 3/28/19 at 8:30 pm to meangene323
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Coursey Blvd carries 10 times the traffic that the $600,000,000 Audubon Bridge carries on a daily basis. Let that sink in.
But that’s what Coursey is supposed to do. The AB was never designed or intended to be an alt route to the two bridges in BR.
The only reason most of you have any passion about any of this anyway is cause you’re sucking hind tit now. Shoulda been demanding this 10 or 20 years ago. This isn’t a new problem. Shoulda been demanding some visionaries 20 years ago.
Posted on 3/28/19 at 8:31 pm to LSUBadger
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EBR has actually made a hell of an investment in its roads since it approved Tom Ed’s first road plan. The surface streets are vastly better than they were 25 years ago. Five lanes in most instances and concrete rather than blacktop.
The state has absolutely dropped the ball with state highways and the interstate system with the Feds
I agree and I supported those dedicated taxes and we got what we decided we wanted. And will get on the new tax.
But Tom Bob had a pothole tax a pay as you go. It was Kip who allowed us to make it a permanent dedicated tax which allowed the city parish to sell the bonds and get the roads built a lot faster.
But in regards to those I’m in agreement. If we can get state and federal to follow suit we could do a lot better.
ETA: I was cutting through St Gabriel today and the nice neighborhoods along 73 and 74 are reached by narrow substandard 2 lane blacktops. Livingston Parish is the same. I’m curious why these parishes can’t get a decent road program done.
This post was edited on 3/28/19 at 8:35 pm
Posted on 3/28/19 at 8:32 pm to OweO
Give the cops somewhere else to write tickets
Posted on 3/28/19 at 8:43 pm to Hammertime
These were the projects included in the dedicate 4 cent gas tax that were complete with the exception of the 2 on the bottom. Baton Rouge never had a chance.
The TIMED Program was completed in 2016 rather than the 2002 estimate of 2031. It included the following projects:
Tchoupitoulas Street (New Orleans) improvement
WestBank Expressway in Jefferson Parish from Ames Blvd. to Avenue D
Port of New Orleans improvements
Louis Armstrong International Airport improvements
U.S. 90 widening from Morgan City to Houma
West Napoleon Avenue improvements
U.S. 171 widening from Shreveport to Lake Charles
U.S. 61 widening
LA 15 widening
John James Audubon Bridge
Earhart Boulevard
Huey P. Long Bridge widening
U.S. 165 widening
U.S. 167 widening
Curtis-Coleman Memorial (Fort Buhlow) Bridge replacement
Two projects in the original plan, delayed because of environmental and legal issues, will not be funded using TIMED funds, and instead will be incorporated into the state's highway priority program:
I-12 to Bush (LA 3241) - new, 20-mile four-lane highway from I-12 to Bush (est. $230 million)
Florida Avenue Bridge - new 4-lane bridge over the Industrial Canal in New Orleans (est. $270 million)These are the projects that were included in the TIMED program. Baton Rouge never stood a chance.
LINK
The TIMED Program was completed in 2016 rather than the 2002 estimate of 2031. It included the following projects:
Tchoupitoulas Street (New Orleans) improvement
WestBank Expressway in Jefferson Parish from Ames Blvd. to Avenue D
Port of New Orleans improvements
Louis Armstrong International Airport improvements
U.S. 90 widening from Morgan City to Houma
West Napoleon Avenue improvements
U.S. 171 widening from Shreveport to Lake Charles
U.S. 61 widening
LA 15 widening
John James Audubon Bridge
Earhart Boulevard
Huey P. Long Bridge widening
U.S. 165 widening
U.S. 167 widening
Curtis-Coleman Memorial (Fort Buhlow) Bridge replacement
Two projects in the original plan, delayed because of environmental and legal issues, will not be funded using TIMED funds, and instead will be incorporated into the state's highway priority program:
I-12 to Bush (LA 3241) - new, 20-mile four-lane highway from I-12 to Bush (est. $230 million)
Florida Avenue Bridge - new 4-lane bridge over the Industrial Canal in New Orleans (est. $270 million)These are the projects that were included in the TIMED program. Baton Rouge never stood a chance.
LINK
This post was edited on 3/28/19 at 8:45 pm
Posted on 3/28/19 at 8:46 pm to Martini
St Francisville did very well didn’t they?
So did NO.
Meanwhile BR got crapped on so we had to raise local taxes or choke even more.
So did NO.
Meanwhile BR got crapped on so we had to raise local taxes or choke even more.
Posted on 3/28/19 at 8:49 pm to fallguy_1978
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The new bridge in BR has 125,000-150,000
What new bridge? Did we get one?
Posted on 3/28/19 at 8:50 pm to doubleb
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Meanwhile BR got crapped on
Whose fault is that?
Posted on 3/28/19 at 8:50 pm to doubleb
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Meanwhile BR got crapped on so we had to raise local taxes or choke even more.
Well BR taxes are for local surface streets but this shows you how regardless of party affiliation if you don’t care about your region enough to work across the aisle you get left out.
New Orleans may fight amongst themselves but when it comes to New Orleans they stick together. Baton Rouge never has.
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