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re: Why is diet soda a huge vice for so many people?

Posted on 12/30/24 at 7:54 am to
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
37654 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 7:54 am to
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It will not. Diet soda reduces sugar intake, but is linked to weight gain and metabolic disorders when consumed regularly. In quantity, daily users may beome addicted. Diet soda lacks any essential nutrients whatsoever, can impact on gut health and potentially poses diabetes risk. Aspartame is a common artificial sweetener in diet soda, which breaks down into methanol and formaldehyde, substances linked to cancer risk. Use has likewise been associated with cardiovascular disease, kidney failure, even dementia.

This is a total load of junk
Posted by Jimbojambojumbo
Member since Mar 2022
368 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 8:15 am to
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Fact: diet sodas are not making you fat.


I agree. But there has been a case made that they can keep fat people fat.

Theoretically, there is an insulin response to drinking it, despite the zero calories and that can contribute to insulin resistance in obese people.

A person who consumes a lot of sugar daily (ie: obese person, typically) has a body that is already working overtime to try and process all the excess sugars.

When the diet soda is consumed and sweetness is detected, the body releases insulin as its anticipating more sugar to process - called cephalic phase insulin release. This happens when insulin is secreted into the plasma before blood glucose levels rise. The extra insulin can exacerbate insulin resistance in obese people.

I haven’t been following developments and discoveries with that but as with so many weight related things, healthy people who enjoy things in moderation and exercise are typically impacted minimally by diet sodas - outside of any adverse impacts caffeine may cause.

At the end of the day, obviously it’s better to not have sugar soda - but the argument is that, for an obese person, diet soda is still not a great alternative - just perhaps the lesser of two evils. But still bad.

Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
34808 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 8:22 am to
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I agree. But there has been a case made that they can keep fat people fat.



we have studies showing that is not the case, lots of them
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
28198 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 8:30 am to
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We've long known that it is arguably much worse for you than the regular version


How so? Which components make it much worse for you? The lack of a ton of sugar and calories is bad for you I guess. Artificial sweetener health is controversial, so nothing proven there on their health effects, and nothing that harmful anyway..

So Coke Zero has no sugar or calories, Coke has a lot of sugar and calories. So how is Coke Zero much worse than Coke as you stated?

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but it also tastes way worse.


I prefer Coke Zero over everything on the market.
This post was edited on 12/30/24 at 1:05 pm
Posted by LSUPhreaK
LaPlace, La.
Member since Dec 2003
10927 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 8:42 am to
There are people that “need” coffee with cream and sugar every day.
Posted by Potchafa
Avoyelles
Member since Jul 2016
3820 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 8:50 am to
I started my midlife healthier journey in April. When to zero sugar soft drinks. Better than the diet taste. "Zero Sugar" drinks typically aiming to more closely replicate the taste of the original beverage by using a combination of sweeteners, while "diet" drinks may prioritize a lighter taste with a single sweetener like aspartame. I've lost 20 lbs and love my zero sugar pops!
Posted by HoustonChick86
Catalina Wine Mixer
Member since Dec 2009
58853 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 8:52 am to
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but it also tastes way worse.

Disagree, I actually prefer the taste of Diet sodas. I know they aren't better for me. I'd still drink those if they had calories and regular soda did not.

I don't drink alcohol, I don't smoke. I don't like teas. Juice is just ok.

So other than water and coffee in the morning, I like a Diet Coke a few times a week for something else to drink to switch it up.
Posted by BigD43
Member since Jun 2016
1136 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 9:18 am to
My fav soda is Mountain Dew
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
71208 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 9:25 am to
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is diet soda a huge vice?
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
20031 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 9:26 am to
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Disagree, I actually prefer the taste of Diet sodas

Yep same here. Regular sodas are sugary and disgusting
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11956 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 9:26 am to
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We've long known that it is arguably much worse for you than the regular version


You are just wrong.

Posted by Palomitz
Miami
Member since Oct 2009
2438 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 9:26 am to
I used to have a client that drank Diet Coke like water, he was addicted to them. I remember going to his house for an interior remodeling and seeing cases of DC stacked up in his garage. He would talk to me holding a DC can like if it was beer lol.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
24840 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 9:36 am to
Reading the comments and see the up and down votes answer the OP question of why diet drinks are such a huge vice for so many.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
86789 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 9:38 am to
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Reading the comments and see the up and down votes answer the OP question of why diet drinks are such a huge vice for so many.


I'm not even sure what you're trying to say with this gibberish. OP is getting massive downvotes because he's an idiot and made a bunch of factually wrong claims. He's also doubled down throughout the thread while being condescending to boot.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
31239 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 9:53 am to
Parents only ever had diet soda in the house when we were kids, so I guess I developed a taste for it. I actually can't stand regular coke / sodas and will take diet / zero sugar 100% of the time.

It's also a LOT less calories. I don't care about much else. I eat like shite and drink every day. Diet soda is the least of my problems.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
20031 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 10:00 am to
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diet drinks are such a huge vice

it has to have a deleterious effect on your health to qualify as a vice

What are your stats? Height, weight, bench, deadlift and squat #’s?
Posted by FutureCorridor49
US 90
Member since May 2023
548 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 10:09 am to
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A calorie is a calorie is a calorie


This is objectively untrue. Your body can take a calorie and do many different things with it, including converting it to fat, converting it to muscle, or even converting it to heat. Multiple factors including the makeup of the calorie itself influence the decision your body makes with regard to how it deal with the calorie.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
37367 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 10:10 am to
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we have studies showing that is not the case, lots of them


Yep. It has been shown more often that they actually help people abstain from worse sweet cravings than if they didn't have them at all.

That's not to say that drinking them makes you healthier, but they are very useful in helping people stick to a healthier eating habit if they are prone to sweet cravings.
This post was edited on 12/30/24 at 10:11 am
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
10847 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 10:11 am to
I drink water and black coffee. That's it except for when I'm at a nice restaurant, I might have a glass of wine or two.
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
10299 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 10:16 am to
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We who drink them like to pretend they’re not bad for us because of no sugar/calories. Still, the chemicals in them cause some unease. I guess you trade one devil for another.


Gotta be better than drinking the same amount of full sodas.

I had a Diet Mtn Dew kick for a while.

I also think there are people who just don't like the taste of water. I've gotten used to it and mostly drink water these days, though I di find myself slipping back to sweet tea now and again.
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