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Posted on 2/13/19 at 9:36 am to RJYH
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Where are those drugs researched, tested, and developed? How much does the regulation of processes cost? It's like the argument about military soending, yes we spend a lot but we're also stationed all around the world protecting those that don't.
I get all that but when the exact same drug that is developed in the US is sold for one price in Europe and a significantly higher price here, something isn't right. And stuff like Insulin that was developed nearly 100yrs ago yet costs an arm and a leg simply because they can.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 9:38 am to The Torch
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Because Obama was a fool with nothing to offer the country, his offering was screwing up the health care system for the working class
He was no fool. He wanted Medicare for All but knew it wouldn't pass. So, he pushed for a system that would surely fail but lead us one step closer to Medicare for All.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 9:48 am to mmmmmbeeer
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single-payer is bad because the government, with no profit-motive, may turn down an "essential" surgery....but you totally trust insurance companies, whose entire existence depends on driving profits by cost savings, to approve the "essential" surgery?
Except we already know what government-run healthcare would look like.
It's called the VA. And that's just a very, very small subset of the population. Imagine such a fine, upstanding organization in charge of the healthcare for the entire country.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 10:16 am to Centinel
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Except we already know what government-run healthcare would look like.
It's called the VA. And that's just a very, very small subset of the population. Imagine such a fine, upstanding organization in charge of the healthcare for the entire country.
That is disingenuous though if you are using it to discuss single-payer. If you want to extrapolate from a Federal system don't use the single-provider model but the actual single-payer model which would be Medicare/Medicaid. I haven't seen anyone of any import suggest a single provider model.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 10:48 am to sgallo3
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i side with the republican philosophy on many many many things. but healthcare doesnt make since. our system we all pay into costs more per person than the socialist policies to the norht and across the pond. we all pay more. instead of coming out of taxes we just pay private insurance companies more. and then we arent even guaranteed to be covered. it makes 0 sense but people would rather keep arguing "we're paying for all the poor people" ok, but we would pay less if we just agreed to pay for the poor people and had that shite controlled at a national level we already pay for the poor people, its calculated into the insurance rates, so would u rather pay more or less?
Yeah no, frick the government getting involved in anything else. frick the government getting involved in anything period.
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