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re: Why does Gen Z want to work in the dark?

Posted on 9/24/26 at 3:25 pm to
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36923 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 3:25 pm to
I'm on that X/mill line and I go out of my way to protect my eyes. I dim the lights as low as possible, always wear sunglasses outside if the sun is out, and consume prophylactics for glaucoma every evening.

I still have perfect vision at 45.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
39152 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 3:27 pm to
Light sensitivity is a bitch plus screen time too is a recipe for dry eye syndrome
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35615 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 3:30 pm to
Been doing that since my first office job 30 years ago. Leave lights off at home.
It’s even worse now with shitty LED lighting.
Posted by BayMar
Member since Jun 2026
85 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 3:31 pm to
I'm light off window open when really trying to focus (i.e. scrolling tiger droppings)
Posted by LoveThatMoney
Who knows where?
Member since Jan 2008
12858 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 3:32 pm to
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I think butts in seats is essential when first starting out.


This is debated nearly every year at my firm and the only thing I can think of that is hard to replicate in terms of experience is having the young associate on a call in the same room as the partner so he or she can learn during “shadow time” while no one knows he or she is on the phone.

In my mind, this is remediable by simply saying, “Hey, I have my associate on the Teams call. He’s going to be taking notes and learning.” And just being upfront about it. As far as I know, there’s no easy way to have the associate mask his or her presence on a Teams call without being in the room physically.

That’s it. That’s the only “training” that cannot be done over Teams.

In fact, I have had more meaningful conversations and training with partners over Teams at my current firm (and I’ve given more training over Teams at my current firm) than my previous two firms. It is intentionality, not proximity. Senior level folks simply need to be willing to make themselves available to their subordinates.

This may only be relevant to law firms, but I doubt it.

Now, replacing socialization and team bonding? That’s a different story. That requires specific intention to have teams do group meetings, go out together, etc., when remote. Not impossible but not as organic as, “Hey, you wanna grab lunch?”

But, again, my prior two firms were not willing to do that. Everyone ordered door dash and worked through lunch, doors closed, heads in computers.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
13640 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 3:38 pm to
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Come on, Mr. 1%. Tell us the secret of your success.


Pearls before swine. I’ve learned my lesson.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
Who knows where?
Member since Jan 2008
12858 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 3:44 pm to
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Come on, Mr. 1%. Tell us the secret of your success.


Stay at work til midnight to avoid your wife so she divorces you and takes half your money after your kids are halfway to adulthood and you’ve made partner at the firm, duh.

You’re income is in the 1%, but you get to live in a starter home with wife number 2 while sending the old bitch you now hate $10,000 a month to send Timmy and Sally to private school and to live in the house you bought years ago, while she bangs the phys ed teacher in the bed you used to sleep in.

Meanwhile, wife 2 goes and shops all fricking day and spends all the leftover money you bring home with your big paycheck, but, hey, at least you get to work until you die at your desk from a grabber.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34739 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 3:49 pm to
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Every single young person we have hired in the last 2 years works with the fluorescent lights off and only by the light coming in through the window. When I ask them why, every single one of them says "I prefer natural light."


I'm 44 and am in upper management. My boss and I both generally work with the windows closed. Of the 4 fluorescent fixtures in my office, I had maintenance take 12 of the 16 tubes out so that the light wasn't so harsh.

Did you not grow up with a dimmer in your living room?
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
14620 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 4:14 pm to
Where in the hell are y'all working where they still use fluorescent bulbs? Surely theyre swapped over to LEDs, no?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
74399 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 4:17 pm to
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They also wear earbuds while working. Something that made one of my now-retired partners absolutely batshit crazy.


I don't do this but my wife does. Hers are noise cancelling, though, so I get it. She's not even listening to anything on them but she works from home and doesn't want the outside noises, the dogs, etc to distract her
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Every single young person we have hired in the last 2 years works with the fluorescent lights off and only by the light coming in through the window. When I ask them why, every single one of them says "I prefer natural light."


one of our partners did this and he wasn't even young. He just like working with the lights off, and we all thought it was weird. Me personally, I hate overhead lights and fluorescent lights in general. I prefer lamp lighting when I'm in a room.
This post was edited on 9/24/26 at 4:19 pm
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 9/24/26 at 4:20 pm to
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Of the 4 fluorescent fixtures in my office, I had maintenance take 12 of the 16 tubes out so that the light wasn't so harsh.


So they removed the tubes completely from 3 fixtures leaving 4 in one fixture?

You could remove 8 of 16, 2 each from 4 fixtures, and 2 would work fine, as long as you remove the correct 2. You can't remove 3 of 4 from a fixture because none of them will burn without some rewiring and a ballast change. You could have one lamp in each fixture and use the existing ballasts but that would take a HEAP of rewiring.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/24/26 at 4:24 pm to
Hey , just getting them to work is a start
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 9/24/26 at 4:25 pm to
I make a pretty damn good living, in part, assessing conditions, developing plans, estimating costs and developing budgets for improving facilities in order to enhance recruitment and retention of employees. It may be that young folks are weird to us old frickers but corporate America is well aware of the fact that people aren't going to put up with being treated like shite in exchange for a paycheck like most of us have done all our careers.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
20115 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 5:54 pm to
They are unprofessional wimps.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
20115 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 5:58 pm to
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Surely theyre swapped over to LEDs, no?



They did at my office. When they left I took them out and put Philips high-CRI tubes back it.
Posted by Rza32
Member since Nov 2008
4725 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 6:07 pm to
The vibes
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
36820 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 8:37 pm to
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You’re buying my time x my skill. You’re not buying my effort. You get my baseline.


lol.

Thanks for that. I laughed.

(At you, not with you)
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31614 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 8:39 pm to
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works with the fluorescent lights off and only by the light coming in through the window. When I ask them why, every single one of them says "I prefer natural light."



Im not Gen Z but I too prefer natural light and hate fluorescent
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