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re: Why do you think the whales are dying near the new windmills in the NE?

Posted on 3/3/23 at 11:23 am to
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 11:23 am to
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hat picture is from 2016. Even the most basic fact checking would have shown you this


And it's literally German
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
84442 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 11:23 am to
The vaccine
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
38337 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 11:30 am to
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Hopefully a real marine biologist can chime in.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
49935 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 11:31 am to
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Over the weekend, there was a rather large protest in New Jersey over the whale deaths. The protesters were calling for a stop to offshore wind development in the area. Is there a connection between whale deaths and offshore wind?

Experts say there isn't.

"At this point, there's no evidence to support speculation that noise generated from wind development surveys could potentially cause mortality of whales," Kim Damon-Randall, director of the NOAA Fisheries Office of Protected Resources, told WNYC.


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Update on Strandings of Large Whales along the East Coast
Humpback Whales
To date, sixteen humpback whales have stranded along the Atlantic coast this winter. These
strandings are part of the Humpback Whale Unusual Mortality Event (UME) declared by the
National Marine Fisheries Service (NMFS) that began in 2016. Forty percent of the whales that
could be examined at necropsy (some were inaccessible floating at sea) showed evidence of ship
strike or entanglement. Although these strandings have generated media interest and public scrutiny,
humpback whale strandings are not new (Wiley et al. 1995) nor are they unique to the U.S. Atlantic
coast (Giardino et al. 2022). In fact, ten or more humpback whales have stranded each year during
the UME, with a high of 34 in 2017. As the Gulf of Maine stock of humpback whales continues to
grow, more young animals are choosing to overwinter along the Atlantic coast where they are
vulnerable to being struck by ships and becoming entangled in fishing gear. NMFS recently hosted a
media briefing on the recent East Coast whale strandings and the recording and transcript of that
briefing are available here together with a Q&A webpage.
Despite several reports in the media, there is no evidence to link these strandings to offshore wind
energy development. For more information on offshore energy development and whales, please see
this fact sheet produced by the Bureau of Ocean Energy Management


Marine Mammal Commission
Posted by Roovelroe
Mandeville
Member since Jan 2005
4372 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 11:38 am to
That's going to smell.
Posted by Celery
Nuevo York
Member since Nov 2010
11306 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 11:39 am to
Good find internet sleuth. That article has a tinge of environmentalism, but it’s worth noting that these particular whales had bellies full of plastic garbage and fishing nets. Apparently, this is becoming common. No denying the that the oceans are full of garbage.

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it has now been revealed that the most likely cause of death was acute cardiovascular failure, the contents of their stomachs was alarming, to say the least. Among the squid beaks and fish parts was a whole lot of plastic


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These ones, however, had accidentally eaten a surprising amount of exceedingly strange stuff: a plastic car part, bucket parts, and perhaps the strangest of all, a fishing net that was almost 50 feet long
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
133470 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 11:42 am to
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"At this point, there's no evidence to support speculation that noise generated from wind development surveys could potentially cause mortality of whales," Kim Damon-Randall, director of the NOAA Fisheries Office of Protected Resources, told WNYC.
Posted by waiting4saturday
Covington, LA
Member since Sep 2005
10583 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 11:44 am to
Probably some frequency omitted from the vibration of the windmills that’s driving them crazy
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
60804 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 11:44 am to
One of the greatest episodes of Seinfeld.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
28473 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 11:53 am to
Addressing the issue starts with gathering and presenting facts, not using false information, but seeing as how we live in a world where people refuse to believe facts because their political feelings are stronger, that may be hard to do. Even if an overarching thing is true, justifying it with false information will bring into question the absolute truth.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
15113 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 11:54 am to
This is probably going to end the same way all the law suits did from wind farm neighbors claiming the cows were going insane from turbine vibrations and noise.
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
92037 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 12:08 pm to
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Okay, fine. That still does not address the issue. Why are these whales dying at such a high frequency.


lol...are you trolling?

I mean, the pic used are two sperm whales that died in Germany.
Posted by Thracken13
Aft Cargo Hold of Serenity
Member since Feb 2010
18185 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 12:32 pm to
it is the sound of the windmills - the turbines cause cancer, according to our former president - maybe the sound underwater causes turbo cancer?
Posted by TigerFred
Feeding hamsters
Member since Aug 2003
27672 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 12:37 pm to
Probably the chemicals in all the Chinese paint on the towers that are in the water.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
83588 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 12:37 pm to
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Probably the chemicals in all the Chinese paint on the towers that are in the water.



you'll have a whale of a time proving that
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
6521 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 12:51 pm to
Posted by wasteland
City of peace
Member since Apr 2011
5907 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 12:53 pm to
Well those are dead because they’re on land
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
16057 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 2:23 pm to
Is nobody going to point out that the two whales in the picture are sperm whales. I doubt sperm whales live anywhere near where they're building these wind farms.

The whale deaths that have been happening are humpback whales.
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
9215 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 2:55 pm to
Made me reminisce of a classic

OMG Jay! What is that thing? It's a baby whale bro!!

NSFW Language
Posted by Ham And Glass
Member since Nov 2016
1631 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 3:08 pm to
Shame. But such an occurrence would have been a bonanza, and deemed wonderful, had it happened in 1800.
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