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re: Why do hunters and just about anyone who owns a gun think they could repel a invasion..
Posted on 3/1/23 at 8:31 am to FilingCabinetBill
Posted on 3/1/23 at 8:31 am to FilingCabinetBill
Tell me… why did America lose the Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq wars?
This post was edited on 3/1/23 at 8:33 am
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Posted on 3/1/23 at 8:31 am to Loup
quote:I'm pretty sure that anybody who owns guns "trains" with them all the time.
I think the point he's getting at is that instead of just believing we are badasses because we own guns we should be training with and without our guns a hell of lot more.
This is his way of anonymously flexing on a message board on people who own guns.
Posted on 3/1/23 at 8:32 am to jnethe1
quote:bro, half of yall can't even stand that long
That’s the point of the gun. So you can stand your ground and not run.
there is more to prep than what your CC can handle
Posted on 3/1/23 at 8:32 am to rmnldr
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You’re completely right that the average populace has no way to deal with armor, air support, artillery, or most infantry considering their logistical support and communications assets along with strong bases of automatic fire.
Except there would be a number of citizens with the knowledge and capability to employee surveillance assets like drones, use Ham radio and/or the internet for communications, and have access to resources that create more lethal weapons (fertilizer for example). It’s not just about guns.
Posted on 3/1/23 at 8:32 am to FilingCabinetBill
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Of continental USA?
What gives people these outlandish ideas? I hunt and I also hear these discussions at my hunting camp.
1776, 1812, Vietnam, 1980 Afghanistan, 2002 Afghanistan, and more.
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Most hunters hate other club members and all neighbors for the most part. But somehow they're all going to work together and employ guerilla tactics together?
Where the frick do you live where the dudes all hate each other? I grew up in the sticks of WV and a couple guys may have had disagreements with each other but the most part everyone got along.
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And assuming anyone invades it will be a full scale combined arm invasion. If we don't own the air then ground troops will be torn to shreds by air to ground and by artillery.
You think anyone who invades us will have enough material to carpet bomb the Rockies and Appalachia?
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I try to inform all the tards that no overweight army armed with small arms with no organization will be destroyed within days.
The only thing you may have had a decent point about. Even then rough living will take the extra weight off you.
Posted on 3/1/23 at 8:33 am to rmnldr
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It would be pretty much impossible to beat back the US Navy and Air Force to be able to invade the continental US so let me start off by addressing this with the scenario being the US military itself attempting to occupy and enforce martial law for completely unjust reasons.
You’re completely right that the average populace has no way to deal with armor, air support, artillery, or most infantry considering their logistical support and communications assets along with strong bases of automatic fire.
What you’re missing is the fact that an army marches on its stomach and that attempting to occupy a massive land area such as the United States with massive river systems, abundant impassible terrain, and major road networks that have no real redundancy would be suicide.
Any occupying army would have to secure thousands of miles of interstate roadways, bridges, pipelines, transmission towers, to keep everything going smoothly for themselves. There’s enough guns in private citizens’ possession that those who do want to fight will be able to and the havoc they could unleash on the rearguard and logistical train of an organized army would be enough to cripple it. This has been proven many times already in the 20th century.
Imagine trying to secure some place like South Louisiana for access to the Mississippi River. There’s bridges galore to destroy, transmission towers all over, and impassable swampy terrain to create choke points. Subjugating the city of New Orleans would never be enough and it’d be a never-ending game of whack-a-mole trying to stop partisan activity in the River parishes or downriver of New Orleans to be able to utilize the River.
Pretty much all of this.
OP is correct that a standing "militia" in open combat with a well armed and trained military force would get run off the field, no question.
But coonasses with guns and homemade IED's could wreak absolute havoc on supply lines which is the precise reason a standing military would lose.
Posted on 3/1/23 at 8:34 am to FilingCabinetBill
quote:and that's your problem. You are a know-it-all that wants to look down at others.
I try to inform all the tards
You are an idiot.
Posted on 3/1/23 at 8:34 am to TDsngumbo
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America lose the Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq wars
What in the actual frick
Posted on 3/1/23 at 8:36 am to AwgustaDawg
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I own a house full of guns and have hunted all my life. Enjoy shooting sports like sporting clays and skeet.
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Gun folks tend to be nuts.
Oh the irony here. go home grandpa
Posted on 3/1/23 at 8:43 am to rmnldr
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Imagine trying to secure some place like South Louisiana for access to the Mississippi River. There’s bridges galore to destroy, transmission towers all over, and impassable swampy terrain to create choke points. Subjugating the city of New Orleans would never be enough and it’d be a never-ending game of whack-a-mole trying to stop partisan activity in the River parishes or downriver of New Orleans to be able to utilize the River.
Is there a way to call dibs on getting to blow up the Atchafalaya River Bridge if shite hits the fan?
Posted on 3/1/23 at 8:47 am to swamplynx
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Is there a way to call dibs on getting to blow up the Atchafalaya River Bridge if shite hits the fan?
Just be the first one to get your IEDs on the bridge.
Posted on 3/1/23 at 8:50 am to FilingCabinetBill
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I try to inform all the tards that no overweight army armed with small arms with no organization will be destroyed within days.
I mean, you do realize we have a real army, navy, etc.? Why would we be fighting by ourselves?
In the end, if it's me vs. someone else, I'd rather it be the someone else who goes.
Posted on 3/1/23 at 8:54 am to RealityTiger
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I'm pretty sure that anybody who owns guns "trains" with them all the time
You'd be surprised. Shooting targets a few times a year isn't enough.
This post was edited on 3/1/23 at 8:59 am
Posted on 3/1/23 at 8:57 am to Gaggle
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Every day I dream of the government trying to take my guns forcibly and going out in a blaze of glory and setting off the new civil war. God will y'all please get here already
They'd run you right off the edge of flat Earth.
Posted on 3/1/23 at 9:06 am to FilingCabinetBill
Would you want to invade a country that literally had death around every single corner? The US was terrified of invading Japan, and their populace basically was training to fight with spears.
Posted on 3/1/23 at 9:09 am to mylsuhat
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Dudes are 5'8 255lbs, have thousands of rounds of ammo and gear but can't run a mile if their lives depended on it
A lot of folks I know (including myself) who say they have 1,000 rds of ammo stockpiled would be better off shooting 900 so they could shoot the remaining 100 more proficiently.
This post was edited on 3/1/23 at 9:11 am
Posted on 3/1/23 at 9:18 am to AwgustaDawg
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There are a heaping pile of battle hardened and heavily armed individuals in the middle east who have been in combat for about 30 years and counting who are scared of nothing except a US Military drone....and Bubba down the street and his band of deer hunters are gonna what, guzzle one more beer and take out the drone??? Again, Aerosmith song the anthem for that particular nation....
Whose drones are we going to be worried about?
Posted on 3/1/23 at 9:39 am to Spaceman Spiff
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What in the actual frick
What did America gain from those wars? Better question - what did America “win” by fighting those wars? Each one of them saw a disgraceful exit of American troops after years and years of bogged down guerrilla warfare where we just finally said “frick it” and pulled out. I don’t consider those wins for America.
Posted on 3/1/23 at 10:54 am to TDsngumbo
“A rifle behind every blade of grass”. I forget which Japanese big wig said this but it’s true about any attack on the US. Also supply lines would get fricked with the quickness. Every working farm has the materials to blow pretty much anything up including bridges, tunnels, etc.
Posted on 3/1/23 at 11:42 am to mylsuhat
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bro, half of yall can't even stand that long
describe y’all.
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there is more to prep than what your CC can handle
Did anyone make the statement that they were prepared to take on a standing military?
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