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Why did France and Britian declare war on Germany and not the Soviet Union in WW2

Posted on 5/3/22 at 8:44 am
Posted by bdavids09
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 5/3/22 at 8:44 am
The Soviet Union also invaded Poland and also Finland. The soviets like Germany also had labor camps and committed mass murder. Why was the Soviet Union not considered an enemy at that time?
Posted by TBoy
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Posted on 5/3/22 at 8:45 am to
The Soviet Union did not invade or bomb them.

Next question.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
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Posted on 5/3/22 at 8:45 am to
Lesser of 2 evils
Posted by Das Jackal
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Posted on 5/3/22 at 8:45 am to
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This post was edited on 5/3/22 at 2:16 pm
Posted by Pedro
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Posted on 5/3/22 at 8:49 am to
the enemy of my enemy...
Posted by SantaFe
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Posted on 5/3/22 at 8:50 am to

The UK had an agreement to protect Poland.

You may want to read up on the Treaty of Versailles and what happened after WW One.
Posted by Emteein
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/3/22 at 8:51 am to
IIRC Gen. Patton and Winston Churchill wanted to continue WWII taking on USSR after Germany's surrender. So they kind of were considered the enemy.
Posted by GetCocky11
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/3/22 at 8:51 am to
It was a conspiracy by the shadow globalist elite to install a new world order.

Duh.
Posted by sta4ever
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Posted on 5/3/22 at 8:52 am to
I’ve always wondered this too. There are a lot of things the USSR did before WWII, and during it, that they don’t teach us in schools. They were doing the same things the Nazis were doing. Shoot, they were doing Nazi type things, before the Nazis even really got started with the Holocaust.
This post was edited on 5/3/22 at 8:59 am
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 5/3/22 at 8:55 am to
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The reason why Britain didn’t declare war on the Soviet Union is an intriguing one. Unknown to the general public there was a ‘secret protocol’ to the 1939 Anglo-Polish treaty that specifically limited the British obligation to protect Poland to ‘aggression’ from Germany.
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When people questioned why Britain did nothing when the Red Army moved on Poland, the British government considered revealing the existence of the secret part of the agreement. However, they decided not to, Sir Alexander Cadogan of the Foreign Office explaining privately that to do so “would only provoke curiosity about the existence of similar secret protocols attached to other treaties…” An answer given in the House of Commons in October 1939 revealed only that the Poles had “understood” that “the agreement should only cover the case of aggression by Germany.”

HistoryExtra
Posted by beerJeep
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Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 5/3/22 at 8:55 am to
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Why did France and Britian declare war on Germany and not the Soviet Union in WW2


The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/3/22 at 8:57 am to
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The Soviet Union did not invade


No they did, again. Like the 2nd or I believe 3rd partition of Poland. They even allowed Germany to build their military out in Russia beforehand to skirt WW1 regulations of them.
This post was edited on 5/3/22 at 8:59 am
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35031 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 8:59 am to
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No they did,again. Like the 2nd or I believe 3rd partition of Poland.


I’m pretty sure he was saying that the soviets didn’t invade France or Britain.
Posted by HeadSlash
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Posted on 5/3/22 at 8:59 am to
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Shoot, they were doing Nazi type things, before the Nazis even really got started with the Holocaust.


The NVKD would like a word with you comrade. Please step outside.
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 5/3/22 at 8:59 am to
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It was a conspiracy by the shadow globalist elite to install a new world order


Probably. No doubt orchestrated by banks.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58755 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 8:59 am to
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The Soviet Union did not invade or bomb them.

Next question.



Invade or bomb who? What a weird response.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
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Posted on 5/3/22 at 9:00 am to


dude . . .

You have your facts wrong.

Posted by Dire Wolf
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/3/22 at 9:01 am to
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The enemy of my enemy is my friend.


Lots of Poles, Jews, eastern europeans and western Europeans died fighting Germany or in Russian Gulags during a period where Russia was friendly to Hitler
This post was edited on 5/3/22 at 9:09 am
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30575 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 9:02 am to
Germany and USSR had an agreement before the war, which Germany almost immediately violated after invading Poland because they took control of an area that USSR was supposed to get. From that point on, their agreement fell apart and they were feuding. Churchill likely sensed the animosity and knew they could make Germany fight on multiple fronts if they turned the USSR into a temporary ally on the basis of annihilating Germany

Hitler would go on to straight up invade USSR, sealing the deal for Soviet cooperation with the Allied Nations. Soviets ended up having some cooperated missions with Britain against the Axis powers. The Soviets also had a history of feuds with Japan, so the Axis alignments would have been a disaster if the Soviets joined and were butting heads with their “allies”

Also France is generally chicken shite since the French Revolution so not sure why OP even references them
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
15310 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 9:03 am to
Ah okay. Could have been better written, but fair enough. As long as it's not a pseudo moral argument.
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