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re: Why aren’t there more national grocery store chains?
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:24 pm to LSUFanHouston
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:24 pm to LSUFanHouston
No mention of Rouses? frick y’all
They aren’t nation wide though, yet
They aren’t nation wide though, yet
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:28 pm to MemphisGuy
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Albertsons and Safeway are the same.
This is true. They have the same sales and my phone number works for both. Vonns also.
Who are the top 10 Grocers in the US?
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1. WALMART INC.
Walmart once again top our list for the leader in grocery sales (it accounted for more than one-quarter of all grocery revenues in the United States) with FY2022 sales of $467 billion. This figure includes more than $73 billion dollars in sales attributed to U.S. Sam’s Club which is wholly owned by Walmart. Together, Walmart and Sam’s Club store count is greater than 5,300. WMT’s fiscal year ends on JAN 30 so FY22 includes 11 months of 2021 and we combine Walmart and Sam’s Club’s for purposes of this list. Although Walmart is not classified as a supermarket it dominates the U.S. grocery market and is, by far, the largest food retailer in the country and so it remains the number one grocery chain.
2. AMAZON (Online and physical stores)
We did not include Amazon in our previous lists however, with a growing brick and mortar store count (now that Whole Foods is integrated into the company) as well as effects of the pandemic on the industry we now peg Amazon as the #2 grocery retailer in the country. Amazon’s 2021 sales topped $239 billion and its physical store count is now 662. Amazon’s physical stores include Whole Foods Market, Amazon Fresh, Amazon Go Grocery and Amazon Go.
3. COSTCO WHOLESALE CORPORATION
In the US, Costco sells both branded and private-label grocery products online and through about 564 stores; its U.S. grocery sales totaled over $141 billion 2021. Price conscious consumers were responsible for raising Costco’s U.S. revenues by more than 15% compared to 2020. In addition, the company earned $27 billion in Canada.
4. THE KROGER CO.
Kroger’s revenue in 2021 climbed to over $137 billion, a 4% increase over 2020. The company runs 2,726 stores operating under the Kroger, Harris Teeter and Smith’s banners. While Walmart, Amazon and Costco sell more grocery items, Kroger retains it’s claim to being the largest supermarket chain in the country.
5. ALBERTSONS COS. INC.
Revenues in 2021 rose to over $71 billion across its 2,278 stores operating under the Safeway, Albertsons, and Vons grocery banners.
This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:29 pm to LSUFanHouston
I’m guessing distribution
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:30 pm to Smeg
Kroger and Albertson’s quality are nothing alike. Albertson’s is junk. There are some really nice Kroger’s in Texas.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:30 pm to Kafka
Safeway is now part of Albertsons. Bunch of nameplates between them.
They are in merger prep with Kroger and it’s proceeding slowly and likely to close in 2024.
They will need to divest some stores.
They are in merger prep with Kroger and it’s proceeding slowly and likely to close in 2024.
They will need to divest some stores.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:32 pm to Thundercles
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Gotta be harder to start operating outside the region where your distribution exists. I think companies just buy regional grocery chains and continue to operate them as is. Look at who owns which chains
Right.
But you would think there is extra cost in maintaining all those systems and labels
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:34 pm to prplhze2000
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Grocery is hard. Profit is a penny on the dollar.
Correct but usually consolidation helps with this.
There may be no better example of volume pricing than the grocery. It’s why all the local stores link up with co-ops like Assiciated Grocers
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:38 pm to LSUFanHouston
The trend is when a Walmart comes in they shut down the local stores, they just out compete them on price but as people become unsatisfied with the Walmart selection usually a better ran more specialty local chain pops up near or in the exact same location as the former regional store. Walmart knows the pattern, that is why they started putting neighborhood markets everywhere. Just look at what happened on Range in Denham since they got a Walmart. There were 5 grocery Stores between Florida and I12... then just walmart after a few years. Then you slowly get Carters, Rouses, and Oak Point moving in where Albertsons, Winn Dixie and Delchamps were shut down. It doesn't happen overnight, but it happens.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:46 pm to Thundercles
I didn’t realize Brookshires had such a footprint. Fresh by Brookshires is legit. Been to their Royse City and Tyler store.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:48 pm to LSUFanHouston
I miss A&P. Remember shopping there with the family when I was young. Mom said they had really good roasts, coffee and peanut butter. I also miss K&B.

Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:50 pm to billjamin
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It’s harder for national chains to keep regional tastes a priority…Walmarks is a different game and just panders to poors.
Our super Walmart in Covington has made good maybe great strides in providing more localized products.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:51 pm to Kafka
HEB will be nationwide one day, if you're lucky.
Only problem will be by then in will no longer a private company and will be publicly traded and will never be the same.
Only problem will be by then in will no longer a private company and will be publicly traded and will never be the same.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:52 pm to AlwysATgr
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IDK the answer but I hope HEB doesn't do anything foolish.
They should expand west to about Lafayette then stop

Posted on 12/7/23 at 10:00 pm to SG_Geaux
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Whole Foods
Trader Joe's
You can add Sprouts and Natural Grocers to that list
They're smaller niche stores but they're national
Posted on 12/7/23 at 10:03 pm to LSUFanHouston
mob control of trucking companies til the 70s
Posted on 12/7/23 at 10:07 pm to LSUFanHouston
I do love me some rouses or Albertsons
Posted on 12/7/23 at 10:08 pm to mdomingue
The main problem with expansion is distribution centers and the problems with setting them up and then having the right amount of good store locations that feed off of the distribution center. In addition, you have to be willing to personalize the stores in order to cater to local tastes. Finally you have to assess how far most of your store brands have to travel in orderto stock those distribution centers and the effect on pricing in order to make that profit.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 10:27 pm to mdomingue
Heck Heb just got to Dallas!
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