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re: Why are public schools so bad, particularly in the South?

Posted on 6/15/20 at 1:22 pm to
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
20009 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 1:22 pm to
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You ever watch a math nerd with perfect diction try to run a 40, jump hurdles, or catch a football?




There are plenty who can all that and still not sound retarded while speaking in public.
Posted by tigerfan4444
Member since Apr 2008
702 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 1:25 pm to
I would expect that property taxes in Texas are higher than in Louisiana since Texas doesn't have a state income tax. The money has to come from somewhere.

There are too many parents that think of (public) schools as a baby sitting service. With that said, A former Newman student told me that it is a pretty loose structure where you can play video games for a few hours and then go to class. I would be pretty peeved if I were a parent paying over $30,000 for that type of education.

I am surprised that Illinois has the ranking it does considering Chicago Public Schools is ranked in the bottom 15% of all school districts in the state and it is by far the largest district in the state.

I'm pretty sure if you paid every Louisiana public school teacher 30% more a year, student scores wouldn't improve.

I remember a student transferred out of my high school to a public school and he was the valedictorian of his new school with a 3.4 and he had a low teen ACT score.

Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
10719 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 1:29 pm to
You know damn well that if you take certain areas out of the equation .... and you know which ones... scores are national average or better.

As for those districts... the main problems are the students.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 1:30 pm to
If the US should wouldnt require every student take the ACT/SAT and only those who actually planned on college then the scores would be better. Which is why it is comical to compare the US to many countries. They take the data they have on students and if a student is low performing they push them towards blue collar work, in the US we still tell that student they need to go to college to do something with their life
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34216 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 1:48 pm to
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In Sugarland Texas they are good.


You must have missed the countless OT posts saying the the schools in the suburbs of Houston are no better than the suburban schools of Baton Rouge.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
72918 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 1:50 pm to
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the main problems are the students.


The problem is the parents. The kids never have a chance.
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
7331 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 4:28 pm to
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3. In order to avoid lawsuits documented discipline
against minorities is rigorously and actively avoided.
4. Without discipline, teaching is impossible.


My daughter taught 3 years, 2nd grade, at a fairly decent Cy-Fair elementary school. She was a very devoted teacher. She's always been the kid that never fails and will work however hard to be successful. She quit teaching and went back to take prerequisites to apply to PT school (she will go next year). She could not tolerate the bureaucracy of the district and the lack of discipline.

Basically, if kids were bad and you sent them to the office, they just sent them back to class, or worse yet, they let them stay out of class and gave them computer time. There were ZERO CONSEQUENCES for bad behaviors. She felt she wasn't allowed to discipline and was just allowing kids to become problems. She had kids throw chairs, throw food, throw their tray in the cafeteria.

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6. The "best" Teachers only try to help the students
that want to learn or are motivated by their home
life.
7. All other teachers are babysitters just there to get
paid and keep the rapes and open drug use to a minimum.
8. Any numbers that affect funding are fudged or outright faked.
9. Any resistance to the regime is met with unstoppable
career destruction or Siberia assignments.


All the older teachers hated it and felt they had too many years in the system to just quit, but it was miserable for them. They were quite often glorified babysitters. The reason kids were sent back to class is so they could tear up the office referral slips and make their campus reporting look better. She would have done anything to help the kids. She actually loved teaching. She hated the oppression of the system. It took away teacher's professional opinions and decisions. She would have spent any amount of time helping the kids. Instead, the district required so much paperwork that all her extra time went there. All her fellow teachers told her to get out while she could. Many teachers left either are miserable because their hands are tied, or they are mediocre and don't care.
Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
22263 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 4:45 pm to
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A lot of reasons, including a few that would get me banned.


That's why I am going to remain silent on this...
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
4672 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 6:01 pm to
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am surprised that Illinois has the ranking it does considering Chicago Public Schools is ranked in the bottom 15% of all school districts in the state and it is by far the largest district in the state.
Suburb public schools in the surrounding counties are excellent, that's why. I live in DuPage county and pretty much any district has great schools
Posted by Spyhunter3
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2020
370 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 6:16 pm to
You know why. You cute frick.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 6:20 pm to
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How do we break the cycle of urban uneducated ghettos and rural trailer trash


bussing.

take kids out of their homes at age 2.

no dessert if you mess up subject verb agreement.
Posted by AUTimbo
Member since Sep 2011
3377 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 6:32 pm to
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I’ve lived and my experiences have taught me it’s not about color, it’s about the internal character of a person.


Right there with ya on this one
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 6:34 pm to
Bc the parents and community care more about the football teams wearing the schools name than they do about the schools themselves and what goes on inside them
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