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re: Why are people so ignorant when it comes to common car maintenance?

Posted on 12/13/17 at 12:56 pm to
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 12:56 pm to
Do they still teach "shop" in school?


If not, that is the reason. A bunch of pansies is what men have been raised to become in this country. A bunch of pansies.
Posted by GaryMyMan
Shreveport
Member since May 2007
13499 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 1:03 pm to
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Last week, a younger guy at work payed a fortune to have someone come out and change his flat tire. When I found out I told him I'd help him change it, but he responded he'd rather have a 'professional' do it.


I had an old boss whose wife had a brand new Range Rover. He had me go fix the flat on it in their driveway. Those things have auto-leveling air suspension - when I jacked up the rear right corner, the entire vehicle raised up to compensate, even when turned off. By the time I got the wheel off the ground the scissor jack was straight up in the air - a medium wind could've knocked it over. I got it changed with no problems but it wasn't ideal.

My point is: sometimes you should have a professional do it.

ETA: after googling, it looks like the air suspension would've been disabled had I opened a door. Now you know too.
This post was edited on 12/13/17 at 1:07 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
76161 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 1:04 pm to
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If not, that is the reason. A bunch of pansies is what men have been raised to become in this country. A bunch of pansies.



No dads to teach them these things.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 1:14 pm to
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The days of "tinkering" with a car as my father put it are basically over. Those days when I used to hand over the 5/8ths and grab pop a cold one. There's just no way to tinker any more.
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Huh? Nonsense (for the most part).



Just pulled up a Duramax turbo diesel for a Sierra 2500 just as an example.

What relatively normal tinkering dad would tinker on that when slammed in the engine compartment?

Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
72907 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 1:16 pm to
Modern vehicles and engines are very modular these days.

As intimidating as that looks, fixing anything on it involves taking a bunch of shite off, replacing the broke thing, and putting a bunch of shite back on. With computer diagnostics, it’s going to tell you what’s wrong with it.

If you’ve got a service manual, the amount of special tools and know how needed are very little to do a whole lot.
Posted by Traveler
I'm not late-I'm early for tomorrow
Member since Sep 2003
26623 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 1:19 pm to
I'm going to take this in a different direction. I recognize the familiar posters here that do a lot of the maintenance themselves. These are the guys that took their bikes and Christmas toys apart the day after Christmas because of their natural curiosity of what makes them work.
This trait will usually stay with someone their whole lives. The troubleshooting, disassembly and repair of a part or whole system is a challenge and self rewarding and most of the time it doesn't have anything to do with saving money or doubting the shop's ability to correct the defect.
Some people hunt, fish, play golf, work on their cars or have other interests. It's mental therapy that takes them away from their 9 to 5 jobs.
If you are content to pay someone else to do basic maintenance on your vehicles, that's fine. It's your earned money to spend how you like. But if you do, to say the person that does his own work and does it because he wants to save a few bucks and the time he spends doing it is wasted, is not necessarily a true and accurate statement.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 1:22 pm to
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This morning another guy at work got his car towed into a shop because the battery was dead and took the day off so he could go get it 'fixed'.


I had the battery on a rental recently die. The thing was tucked away under the hood. Not right on top like in my truck. Not a chance in hell I’d feel comfortable changing that battery and removing other mechanical components.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19996 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 1:25 pm to
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The whole thread is a bit amazing... ...to assume that no one either,

A.) values their time more or..

B.) is able to earn more with their time

...than individuals who change car parts for a living.


Well you assumed wrong if that's all you got from this thread so far. Not just simple, routine vehicle maintenance but basic troubleshooting skills in general are lacking, especially in Millennials. A young couple just bought their first house across from mine and it's obivious the struggle is real for them. They spent $400 for a plumber to replace a toilet that only needed a fill valve kit and 20 minutes with basic hand tools to repair. For a group that is obsessed with "life hacking" they have very poor basic repair skills.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 1:37 pm to
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With computer diagnostics, it’s going to tell you what’s wrong with it.


Only an idiot believes this. The code the engine computer puts out only gives you a direction to look , you then have to properly diagnose the problem.

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If you’ve got a service manual, the amount of special tools and know how needed are very little to do a whole lot.


^Well look there, you went and confirmed that you're an idiot.
This post was edited on 12/13/17 at 1:40 pm
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 12/13/17 at 1:41 pm to
Nah. I design this kind of shite for a living
This post was edited on 12/13/17 at 1:42 pm
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 1:43 pm to
Do I get a pass for not being able to change a tire cause I’m a chick?

I mean....I guess I could figure it out on my own if I had to. But I’ve had AAA since I first started driving.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 12/13/17 at 1:46 pm to
Nahhhh. You really should know how to do that. Holding your skirt up and sticking your leg out won’t work if you get a flat in college station and you damn sure don’t want to get stuck there.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 1:49 pm to
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had the battery on a rental recently die. The thing was tucked away under the hood. Not right on top like in my truck. Not a chance in hell I’d feel comfortable changing that battery and removing other mechanical componen


That was the case with my aunt’s car. My husband went to remove her battery to get it tested....battery is tucked practically by the driver’s side wheel. He could barely jump it so she could take it someplace so they could replace it.
Posted by D Tide
Member since Mar 2012
503 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 1:52 pm to
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If you’ve got a service manual, the amount of special tools and know how needed are very little to do a whole lot.



I think you said this backwards. You need a lot of special tools to do a little
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
50051 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 1:53 pm to
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Last week, a younger guy at work payed a fortune to have someone come out and change his flat tire. When I found out I told him I'd help him change it, but he responded he'd rather have a 'professional' do it.

This morning another guy at work got his car towed into a shop because the battery was dead and took the day off so he could go get it 'fixed'.



I hope your the boss at the job other wise you might need to start looking for a new job.

If you are the boss I would immediately start looking for the replacements for these employees.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 1:54 pm to
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Nah. I design this kind of shite for a living


I don't care what you do for a living. You just stated that working on a Durmax diesel is easy . You're an idiot.
This post was edited on 12/13/17 at 1:56 pm
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
26348 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 1:56 pm to
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Last week, a younger guy at work payed a fortune to have someone come out and change his flat tire. When I found out I told him I'd help him change it, but he responded he'd rather have a 'professional' do it. This morning another guy at work got his car towed into a shop because the battery was dead and took the day off so he could go get it 'fixed'.

Please tell me you: laughed, told them they are pussies, and lost respect for them
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
72907 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 2:02 pm to
It’s not difficult if you have the instructions on what to do and you actually follow them. It might take a really long time, but it is most certainly not complex.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37487 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 2:23 pm to
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Can I change my tire, my battery, my oil myself? Yeah I can. I rather pay someone to deal with it.

I mean, I'm not Mr. Mechanic or anything but I'll change my own damn tire and battery
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 12/13/17 at 2:26 pm to
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It’s not difficult if you have the instructions on what to do and you actually follow them. It might take a really long time, but it is most certainly not complex.


I repeat, You're an idiot. Diagnosing and correctly repairing a modern vehicle is neither easy, nor cheap.
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