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Why are educational curves a thing?
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:10 pm
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:10 pm
How do they help you learn better? They just seem like GPA boosters to make the teacher look better. I assume schools allow them because then they look better. To some of the older posters on this board, did you ever get curves in school?
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Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:11 pm to jlovel7
quote:Yeah... and the Asian kids always fricked it up
did you ever get curves in school?
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:12 pm to jlovel7
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To some of the older posters on this board, did you ever get curves in school?
I lived to crush those 100-buster questions in HS Spanish. 15 year old me did not understand what an el douche-o I was.
ETA: that was prob the last time in life I didn’t benefit from a curve
This post was edited on 4/7/20 at 8:26 pm
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:13 pm to yankeeundercover
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Yeah... and the Asian kids always fricked it up
i took a dumb person bio once at LSU and the teacher had to curve one of our tests like something insane...15+ points
she said she had to exclude one person's test b/c it was too high and would screw over the curve
we had one of those 10 year old genius asian kids in the class, so he basically became enemy #1 after that
he didn't get his test excluded
This post was edited on 4/7/20 at 8:14 pm
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i took a dumb person bio once at LSU and the teacher had to curve one of our tests like something insane...15+ points
I've seen 30+ point curves in EE because the professor does such a shite job of teaching and the test is about 80% not related to the material covered
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:17 pm to Powerman
engineering is its own animal with respect to curves
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:20 pm to jlovel7
I think the implication is that if the entire class performed shitty, part of the blame should be shared by the instructor.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:21 pm to Powerman
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I've seen 30+ point curves in EE because the professor does such a shite job of teaching and the test is about 80% not related to the material covered
I had an organic chemistry professor whose final class average, unadjusted, was 35. THIRTY. FIVE.
His philosophy was that his exams were insanely hard because he wanted to identify the truly gifted students over the course of a semester so he could focus on them in the future as they moved through the chemistry department. Those all got A's. The rest of us dummies got our grades curved so the brightest of the stupid got B's.
Guy had tenure and gave precisely zero fricks about anyone or anything other than the Chemistry department and its major students. I know the shite out of some organic chemistry, but I sure as hell didn't ever get an A in it.
This post was edited on 4/7/20 at 8:22 pm
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:21 pm to jlovel7
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did you ever get curves in school?
Her name was Danielle
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:22 pm to jlovel7
Grading on a curve is a big part of what is wrong with our education system. Rather than focusing on teaching critical thinking or competency, they decide to make things competitive and gatekeep with only an arbitrary number of pass/fail slots. It makes grades relative to the performance of your peers rather than to a set objective standard. I absolutely disagree with the practice.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:23 pm to Powerman
I had a Geology class at LSU that had a few 20-30 PT curves.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:24 pm to jlovel7
I benefited from the curves in high school and set them in college.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:25 pm to jlovel7
If done correctly applying a statistical distribution (curve) to a classes grades is a more meaningful way of analyzing and awarding grades. For example on a exam the three highest scores were 89, 90, and 98 using a 10 point scale the student with the 89 gets a B, and the one with the 90 gets an A. It makes no sense that 89 and 90 can be two different letter grades. They should be awarded Bs and the student with the 98 would receive the only A. I taught college level classes in the past, and this is how I graded. Usually half the students loved it, and the other half hated it.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
Our organic class was a dumpster fire when it came to class averages, mostly because there was a giant disconnect with the teacher and the entire class. He designed the tests to be extremely hard.
Average for a lot of the tests were in the 30's and 40's, with like the highest score being in the low 70's. The in class quizzes weren't much better either. Our professor curved tests pretty badly and had to change the grading scale. If not almost the entire class would have failed
Average for a lot of the tests were in the 30's and 40's, with like the highest score being in the low 70's. The in class quizzes weren't much better either. Our professor curved tests pretty badly and had to change the grading scale. If not almost the entire class would have failed
This post was edited on 4/7/20 at 8:29 pm
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:26 pm to jlovel7
If you didn’t curve engineering classes the weed outs would filter out like 80% of the students
Sometimes the tests are just too hard for the time allotted and it doesn’t become apparent until the results come in.
Sometimes the tests are just too hard for the time allotted and it doesn’t become apparent until the results come in.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:28 pm to jlovel7
I had the occasional test curved in HS and undergrad but it was due to the vast majority doing very poorly. In law school every exam was curved but it hurt most people. You had to do near perfect to get an A and not a whole lot worse to get a B. Every exam was curved to a 2.5 and the majority of the class got a C or C+. People who had never gotten a B were in for a rude awakening. This was Duke in the early 90s, different law schools had different curves.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:30 pm to jlovel7
I had a physics professor that was so awful he got fired for the curve he gave. I ended the semester with about 450/2000 total possible points and still managed an A. It was the most ludicrous class.
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:32 pm to UMRealist
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I ended the semester with about 450/2000 total possible points and still managed an A.
This post was edited on 4/7/20 at 8:33 pm
Posted on 4/7/20 at 8:35 pm to Tigerbait357
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Average for a lot of the tests were in the 30's and 40's, with like the highest score being in the low 70's.
Were you and I in the same class? What was the guy's name?
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