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re: Which one of you baws hit a cyclist on River Road?
Posted on 6/20/18 at 10:54 am to beerJeep
Posted on 6/20/18 at 10:54 am to beerJeep
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If you’re in your car. And you’re going 25mph When the speed limit is 55. The rest of traffic is going 55. It’s a 2 lane road.
Is what you’re doing safe?
The answer, of course, is NO. It’s fricking dangerous as all get out.
if none of these cars have a brake pedal then no, i guess that's not safe.
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Posted on 6/20/18 at 10:54 am to beerJeep
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Is going 25 in a 55 down a 2 lane road where the rest of traffic is going 55mph safe?
Theres a lot of ifs and desires on this thread...if the driver would have done what he's supposed to the biker would be fine...well if the biker would not have been on that road, he would be fine. If there was a bike path complete between the two points....blah blah blah.
None of that matters, especially after the fact if you're either of the two individuals involved. The only truth in all of this is that there will always be vehicles on the roads, there will also likely always be bikers on the roads, and it will never be 100% safe for anyone in any scenario...Enter at your own risk.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 10:58 am to beerJeep
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If you’re in your car. And you’re going 25mph When the speed limit is 55. The rest of traffic is going 55. It’s a 2 lane road. Is what you’re doing safe? The answer, of course, is NO. It’s fricking dangerous as all get
No.....it's really not unsafe if everyone is doing what they are supposed to. Keeping safe distance, paying attention. You should easily be able to slow down and not ram into the back of a car just because they are going slower.
Now is it unsafe in reality because the typical driver isn't responsible enough to drive correctly.....probably. But if you follow what he said and everyone follow the laws and pay attention.....then it's not unsafe at all.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 10:58 am to Steadyhands
I would think self preservation would kick in and say “hey, maybe it isn’t the best idea to ride my lil ole bike down a curvy 2 lane road where I’ll have vehicles passing feet away at 30+mph faster than me”
I guess some people just like to live a little more dangerously than I do
I guess some people just like to live a little more dangerously than I do
Posted on 6/20/18 at 10:59 am to KG6
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No.....it's really not unsafe if everyone is doing what they are supposed to
Like..... going the speed of traffic? Not 30mph under it?
Let’s take the interstate fast lane example.
The person that is driving 5mph under the speed of traffic in the left hand lane of the interstate is exponentially more dangerous than the guy going 5mph OVER the speed of traffic.
When you are going slower than the speed of traffic is, you force everyone around you to react TO YOU, forcing numerous situations for problems to occur when they wouldn’t occur had you simply gone the speed of traffic.
This post was edited on 6/20/18 at 11:02 am
Posted on 6/20/18 at 11:08 am to RealityTiger
quote:Definately worthy of killing someone over such a grand inconvenience. Totally justified.
So, you're pretty much restricted to driving as fast as the cyclists can pedal. It can be for as long as 10-15 mins
This post was edited on 6/20/18 at 11:09 am
Posted on 6/20/18 at 11:13 am to Steadyhands
quote:So you’re argument is that drivers are incapable of successfully avoid cyclists? Yet... it’s the cyclists that cannot operate safely? Odd position to be sure.
The cyclist is the only person who had the ability to minimize that possibility.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 11:16 am to RealityTiger
quote:Nope. If you stay to the right drivers try to squeeze past you. Also harder to see.
ETA: and a lot of times the cyclist is trying to prove a point so he/she is hugging that center line (which is not too smart of a move to begin with).
Posted on 6/20/18 at 11:35 am to man in the stadium
there is a lot of traffic at that time due to the Plaquemine ferry.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 11:46 am to Snipe
quote:
I have no sympathy for douche bags that bicycle down the middle of a two lane road.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 12:26 pm to KG6
quote:
No.....it's really not unsafe if everyone is doing what they are supposed to. Keeping safe distance, paying attention. You should easily be able to slow down and not ram into the back of a car just because they are going slower.
Now is it unsafe in reality because the typical driver isn't responsible enough to drive correctly
There it is again, if. You saved it though and resolved your own issue.
I wish everything and everyone would work/drive/ride as intended. The fact is that they don't and they never ever will. It's not a matter of if.....it's only a matter of when....and the answer is never if you don't take the risk. No matter how much you hate that this is the truth, that this is how it is.... doesn't matter, it's still never going to be a good idea to bike on a regularly traveled road. You don't have to like it, but it doesn't change the fact.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 12:37 pm to Steadyhands
You keep arguing a moot point. I have never once said cyclists aren't taking a risk. I have repeatedly said the opposite and told you that I no longer take the risk personally. This whole argument is based on the fact that everyone blames the cyclist for risk existing. We are pointing out that it is not inherently the cyclists fault. We are not pretending the risk doesn't exist.
Repeatedly people say it's dangerous because the cyclist is going too slow/on a busy road/in the middle of a lane/etc.. But the reality is that it's dangerous most of the time because the driver is distracted/annoyed/aggressive/etc.. But when you say that, someone is going to quickly come in and make a comment about how the cyclist is the real reason purely because they are annoyed they have to slow for them sometimes.
Repeatedly people say it's dangerous because the cyclist is going too slow/on a busy road/in the middle of a lane/etc.. But the reality is that it's dangerous most of the time because the driver is distracted/annoyed/aggressive/etc.. But when you say that, someone is going to quickly come in and make a comment about how the cyclist is the real reason purely because they are annoyed they have to slow for them sometimes.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 4:16 pm to BRgetthenet
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Pops died on one of those curves on his bike.
Your Pops or the older gentleman who used to ride his bike and write poetry? He called himself The Bengal Bard.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 4:32 pm to PillPusher
But there is room for slow moving tractors and cars? I’ve never understood this mentality
Posted on 6/20/18 at 5:38 pm to ecb
Unfortunately yes. Tractors don't have any other way around. People shouldn't drive slow and hold everyone up, but they're in the appropriate vehicle at least.
Bikes are neither. It's not necessary and it's a hindrance to others. Neither of the other 2 fit that description.
Bikes are neither. It's not necessary and it's a hindrance to others. Neither of the other 2 fit that description.
This post was edited on 6/20/18 at 5:39 pm
Posted on 6/20/18 at 5:39 pm to ecb
quote:
But there is room for slow moving tractors and cars?
No Baw, there's not. It's just that there are less of them. They don't ride erratically, darting in and out, making you hit them and scratching the paint on your car.
Stay in your lane so my paint can remain shiny and unblemished.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 6:02 pm to Tiger Ryno
I don’t understand anyone who rides a bicycle on a road with a speed limit faster than about 35 mph. It’s stupid, regardless of the legality of it.
This is coming from someone who used to ride his bike all over New Orleans, but refuses to ride outside of his neighborhood in Lafayette.
This is coming from someone who used to ride his bike all over New Orleans, but refuses to ride outside of his neighborhood in Lafayette.
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