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re: When the media reports on something you know a lot about
Posted on 3/25/24 at 1:19 pm to Smoke Ring
Posted on 3/25/24 at 1:19 pm to Smoke Ring
The despicable and deplorable media set the narrative and then weave the story to fit their distorted narrative, especially if they can insert a racial component or any other liberal spin.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 1:36 pm to FredBear
I used to work in an industry that got a lot of press, plus, I was the PIC when things went wrong, so I had to do news interviews, mostly local, some national. One of the biggest things I was involved in was marine related, so when water is in the story, CNN was there. Every evening, with the Coast Guard we'd have a small press conference. CNN and the locals always missed the real facts in favor of dramatizing the most awful thing that could possibly happen. For instance, "is there a chance the vessel could break in half and spill its cargo?" Of course there was a long shot chance of that happening, but it was very unlikely, besides there were containment booms.
I explained all of that, but the lead story was "DANGEROUS CARGO COULD BE RELEASED". The best part was the USCG told the reporters that there wouldn't be anymore press conferences because the facts were being distorted. The next day they moved on to something else and we went from page 1 to almost no mention.
Usually the local press did a better job because you could get to know them, but there was always some jerk trying to make a name for himself.
I explained all of that, but the lead story was "DANGEROUS CARGO COULD BE RELEASED". The best part was the USCG told the reporters that there wouldn't be anymore press conferences because the facts were being distorted. The next day they moved on to something else and we went from page 1 to almost no mention.
Usually the local press did a better job because you could get to know them, but there was always some jerk trying to make a name for himself.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 1:38 pm to Smoke Ring
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Which makes me wonder -- is it like this with everything the media reports?
Yes
Posted on 3/25/24 at 1:40 pm to Smoke Ring
What most people don't realize is that reporters are very rarely subject matter experts on what they're reporting on.
They generally research a 100,000 foot view of something with no context and paint a narrative of what they believe.
They generally research a 100,000 foot view of something with no context and paint a narrative of what they believe.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 1:48 pm to The Pirate King
quote:I’d go a step further and say most reporters are young, ignorant about almost everything, and have an extremely narrow worldview informed by the bubble of likeminded people they associate with.
What most people don't realize is that reporters are very rarely subject matter experts on what they're reporting on.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 1:51 pm to Smoke Ring
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they are usually lucky to get 50% of the facts and context correct. Often there are more misses than hits.
I'd say you're about 50% right....In other words, the media's right about 25% of the time.
The really frustrating thing is they don't seem to care about being wrong and misleading their readers. They also don't seem to have any interest in developing a base of knowledge about the topic.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 1:52 pm to Smoke Ring
Been saying for many many years, nothing will make you lose faith in journalism faster than watching a report on something about which you are an expert.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 1:59 pm to johnqpublic
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Been saying for many many years, nothing will make you lose faith in journalism faster than watching a report on something about which you are an expert.
Yep.
And this is compounded when companies have media relations who don't know the subject matter either but make public statements.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 2:03 pm to Smoke Ring
Brother, they get it wrong a LOT. And it's stupid stuff too. Last week on the way in to work I was listening to the news on WSB in Atlanta. There was a story about a girl visiting Atlanta from Mississippi. Her Atlanta cousin allegedly threw hot grease in her face causing (according to the news) "third and fourth degree burns."
Now, I'm quite familiar with 1st, 2nd, and 3rd degree burns, but I ain't never afore - not even onced in mah entire life - aheard of FOURTH degree burns! I reckon that mebbe the CDC has done invented another category of burns that I ain't learned about afore the other day.
A couple weeks earlier, on the same station, I distinctly heard the newscaster call Vladimir Putin "Valdomir" Putin. All I can figger is that they's jes' a-readin' 'zackly what's on the screen in front of 'em an' they ain't doin' too much thinkin' when they's readin'. (Seriously? How can someone in the news business call Vladimir Putin "Voldomir"?)
I'm jes' a little ol' hick so I prolly don't know no better'n those educated newsy people, but I swear they jes' sound like downright idjuts to me sometimes.
Now, I'm quite familiar with 1st, 2nd, and 3rd degree burns, but I ain't never afore - not even onced in mah entire life - aheard of FOURTH degree burns! I reckon that mebbe the CDC has done invented another category of burns that I ain't learned about afore the other day.
A couple weeks earlier, on the same station, I distinctly heard the newscaster call Vladimir Putin "Valdomir" Putin. All I can figger is that they's jes' a-readin' 'zackly what's on the screen in front of 'em an' they ain't doin' too much thinkin' when they's readin'. (Seriously? How can someone in the news business call Vladimir Putin "Voldomir"?)
I'm jes' a little ol' hick so I prolly don't know no better'n those educated newsy people, but I swear they jes' sound like downright idjuts to me sometimes.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 2:14 pm to AlwysATgr
One of the major networks did a "government boondoggle" report on an expenditure of $100k to research the best ways to store onions. According to the network, this was a total waste of time and money.
Actually, the research showed a way to store vidalia onions where they would keep for up to 6 months, which allowed a boutique crop only grown in a small area to expand greatly. Now it's about a $150 million dollar crop for the state.
Actually, the research showed a way to store vidalia onions where they would keep for up to 6 months, which allowed a boutique crop only grown in a small area to expand greatly. Now it's about a $150 million dollar crop for the state.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 2:42 pm to Smoke Ring
Just read a novel set in 1941 in which the terms "diverse" and"hate speech" were used.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 3:00 pm to Smoke Ring
Local station interviewed my boss a few months ago and all of the questions were stupid and geared towards a predetermined narrative. They left our office pretty disappointed. fricking clowns.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 3:04 pm to Smoke Ring
I work in the medical field and they leave all kinds of shite out, they are also very vague when reporting on certain medical things.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 4:30 pm to Smoke Ring
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get 50% of the facts and context correct.
That is generous.
When I see a story come out and I know the details, I wonder are they that incompetent or doing this on purpose. Then I remember the people I knew in college majoring in journalism.....
Posted on 3/25/24 at 5:14 pm to flyingtexastiger
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I find they generally seem to run about 60% accuracy
That's too high. It's much lower than that.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 5:17 pm to Smoke Ring
Financial media is effectively retarded when it comes to economics and capital markets
Posted on 3/25/24 at 5:21 pm to Smoke Ring
Aviation enters the room.
Embarrassing. I think Hollywood portrays it more accurately, and that’s saying something.
Embarrassing. I think Hollywood portrays it more accurately, and that’s saying something.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 5:29 pm to Smoke Ring
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Which makes me wonder -- is it like this with everything the media reports?
You could bet your arse that it is. "Journalists" for the most part are buffoons. They creat stories of things they know very little about, but most people know very little about also. If you know a subject well, you will definitely notice that they have more wrong than right. It is evident in sports journalism. Think about ESPN football analysts talking about LSU during a broadcast. If you are a diehard fan that really follows the team,/sport, you know that half of what they are saying is erroneous or total BS. If it's not a team you follow, you don't know any better.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 7:01 pm to Smoke Ring
quote:Larry Leo cannot not even spell much good less get "grammer" right.
how often did the media "get it right?"
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