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When the media reports on something you know a lot about
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:08 pm
I don't know a lot, but in the few areas of expertise I do have I know a good deal. And whenever the media reports on something in one of those spaces (TV, print, doesn't matter), they are usually lucky to get 50% of the facts and context correct. Often there are more misses than hits.
Which makes me wonder -- is it like this with everything the media reports?
I know its anecdotal but I'd like to hear folks' opinion -- when you had personal knowledge of something, how often did the media "get it right?"
Which makes me wonder -- is it like this with everything the media reports?
I know its anecdotal but I'd like to hear folks' opinion -- when you had personal knowledge of something, how often did the media "get it right?"
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:09 pm to Smoke Ring
You are 100% correct. I find they generally seem to run about 60% accuracy
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:12 pm to Smoke Ring
quote:
I know its anecdotal but I'd like to hear folks' opinion -- when you had personal knowledge of something, how often did the media "get it right?"
They get it wrong 90% of the time concerning railroads.
Anything beyond just stating "there was a derailment" is generally inaccurate. When they try to get any more detailed than that just ignore it.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:13 pm to Smoke Ring
I occasionally see things in local media and industry publications that I know, without a doubt, are factually incorrect. Usually pretty minor details though, to be fair
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:18 pm to Smoke Ring
The bigger issue is that they don't give a shite when they are wrong.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:19 pm to Smoke Ring
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When the media reports on something you know a lot about
I love nature docs and used to take them as 100% truth until I saw an animal planet doc about fire ants. They made it seem like fire ants were coming into houses and eating babies alive. Since then I take nature docs that do anything other than explain behavior that is being filmed with a grain of salt.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:20 pm to Smoke Ring
It’s an interesting behavioral scenario.
People read an article that they are a subject matter expert and consistently find errors and/or misleading info.
Then they shake their head and think, all that is bullshite. But then skip to the next article and generally believe what is printed. From the same publication most often.
People read an article that they are a subject matter expert and consistently find errors and/or misleading info.
Then they shake their head and think, all that is bullshite. But then skip to the next article and generally believe what is printed. From the same publication most often.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:23 pm to Smoke Ring
I have intimate knowledge of two current industries and the media completely botches every story/report. Most of it is intentional.
The public also has very little knowledge of these industries so they just swallow it down and it gives the industries a bad reputation
The public also has very little knowledge of these industries so they just swallow it down and it gives the industries a bad reputation
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:25 pm to Smoke Ring
The “journalist” almost never knows what they are talking about. They only know how to construct articles and titles to get attention. Modern media trys to get the story going viral through a multitude of means.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:35 pm to Smoke Ring
I have literally rewritten articles from scratch for media members because they were so far factually off base, only to have them and their editors F it up all over again prior to publishing. I go look at source data as often as possible for any media story I have an interest in. Trust no one in media. They count on you to be three things:
1. Bad at math.
2. Easily influenced by their spin and word connotation, not to mention you won't read the last couple of paragraphs, which is where some of them are still forced to quote the facts.
3. To busy or lazy to check source documents or speeches.
1. Bad at math.
2. Easily influenced by their spin and word connotation, not to mention you won't read the last couple of paragraphs, which is where some of them are still forced to quote the facts.
3. To busy or lazy to check source documents or speeches.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:39 pm to Smoke Ring
There's a famous, quote about newspapers by Micheal Crichton.
"Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray's case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward—reversing cause and effect. I call these the "wet streets cause rain" stories. Paper's full of them.
In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know."
"Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray's case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward—reversing cause and effect. I call these the "wet streets cause rain" stories. Paper's full of them.
In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know."
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:39 pm to Smoke Ring
Healthcare, more specifically, hospital operations.
During COVID it was driving me insane.
During COVID it was driving me insane.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:43 pm to Smoke Ring
I will say that when youre required to pump out so much stuff and with as bare bones as many media outlets are running right now facts are unfortunately probably forced to take a back seat. It sucks because that should be all that matters.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:46 pm to Smoke Ring
quote:A summation of one of the burdens of my life.
When the media reports on something you know a lot about
I'm a renaissance man; very little has escaped my considered attention.
quote:Usually around 50/50 percentage-wise.
when you had personal knowledge of something, how often did the media "get it right?
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:51 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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I love nature docs and used to take them as 100% truth until I saw an animal planet doc about fire ants. They made it seem like fire ants were coming into houses and eating babies alive. Since then I take nature docs that do anything other than explain behavior that is being filmed with a grain of salt.
Docs are only interesting if they show outrageous things. Once you realize the extent of this, they become almost useless to watch.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:51 pm to Smoke Ring
Yep, literally anything accounting related. I laugh when they try to talk about anything close to valuing businesses, it's all educated guesses unless an arms length transaction occurs, and even then is it every truly arms length when businesses work with each other all the time.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:52 pm to flyingtexastiger
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You are 100% correct. I find they generally seem to run about 60% accuracy
Does that figure include slant and/or bias?
Today’s mass media is ALWAYS only a starting point. A rabbit hole essentially to begin to gather actual useful information. Stopping at the end of a mass media story is like reviewing a Tesla having half the factory delivered charge remaining.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:54 pm to crash1211
Just like Erwin Knoll's law of media accuracy: "Everything you read in the newspapers is absolutely true except for the rare story of which you happen to have firsthand knowledge."
Posted on 3/25/24 at 1:05 pm to Smoke Ring
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